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hefestus
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 19, 2010 1:18 pm
sandarian wrote:
Yeah I stopped my threads because of the hotfile topic. I have posted a lot of content that has came out of my own pocket and expensive and I see nothing wrong with rewarding myself. All rapidshare does is give you a bunch of points that you will never use up. especially since rapidshare is so popular. I think there was a time that rapidshare was paying but I wasn't an uploader at that time.



Even no more points:

Quote:

As of July 1, 2010 RapidShare's RapidPoints programme will be discontinued


You can redeem them until July 6, 2010 after that no more points.

So in the future we cant even extend our membership by converting the points. Sad
mug67
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 19, 2010 1:35 pm
I think RS started spiraling down. Same as rapidshare.de before..

They got sued in USA and Germany for porn hosting, they canned their CEO and now they are trying to avoid porn hosting..
No filehost is a safe haven for porn uploaders, including HF.

My point was and is, filehosts should be banned if they scam downloaders and not for their affiliating programs.
Uploader friendly filehosts such as HF should be allowed.

I hope HF will be allowed in here, I really would like to share my pr0n in this community!
Monkey D. Ruffy
Very Respected VIP club member
Added: Jun 19, 2010 2:02 pm
mug67 wrote:
I think RS started spiraling down. Same as rapidshare.de before..

They got sued in USA and Germany for porn hosting, they canned their CEO and now they are trying to avoid porn hosting..
No filehost is a safe haven for porn uploaders, including HF.

My point was and is, filehosts should be banned if they scam downloaders and not for their affiliating programs.
Uploader friendly filehosts such as HF should be allowed.

I hope HF will be allowed in here, I really would like to share my pr0n in this community!


The rule about paying hosters (e.g. affiliate programs) was made by the board owner himself as he started the board.

Monkey D. Ruffy
sandarian
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 19, 2010 3:20 pm
hefestus wrote:
sandarian wrote:
Yeah I stopped my threads because of the hotfile topic. I have posted a lot of content that has came out of my own pocket and expensive and I see nothing wrong with rewarding myself. All rapidshare does is give you a bunch of points that you will never use up. especially since rapidshare is so popular. I think there was a time that rapidshare was paying but I wasn't an uploader at that time.



Even no more points:

Quote:

As of July 1, 2010 RapidShare's RapidPoints programme will be discontinued


You can redeem them until July 6, 2010 after that no more points.

So in the future we cant even extend our membership by converting the points. Sad


Wow. Well that is not a suprise considering a lot of people were starting to use other file sharing services. Even without the incentives hotfile has rapidshare beat anyway as there are no daily download limits with them which could be a big deal if you were a new rapidshare premium member as they only add 5GB per day up to 25GB max (unless something has changed). Thanks for the heads up on that one.
JokerR
Good Poster
Added: Jun 19, 2010 5:16 pm
I have an idea:
why not to give it a try? I mean to let the uploaders use HF for a while...lets say 6 months or maybe more ...
moderators, can you check this with the board owner?
sandarian
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 19, 2010 8:26 pm
JokerR wrote:
I have an idea:
why not to give it a try? I mean to let the uploaders use HF for a while...lets say 6 months or maybe more ...
moderators, can you check this with the board owner?


Yeah that's an idea. I'd say limit to just hotfile and not sharingmatrix, oron, etc so that way there is not a lot of spam posting. Also one thing to consider is that I'm sure that most good rapidshare posters were relying on their points to keep their rapidshare account alive and with the changes some are going to jump ship and look for alternatives and from what i've seen hotfile has been the most popular upcoming filehost.
wansink
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 20, 2010 12:25 am
yeah lets try hotfile for a while. Rapidshare is killing itself by stopping the points programme, it was so nice to have a free account there if you did your best uploading
Trilight
Poster
Added: Jun 20, 2010 2:04 pm
JokerR wrote:
I have an idea:
why not to give it a try? I mean to let the uploaders use HF for a while...lets say 6 months or maybe more ...
moderators, can you check this with the board owner?


no new arguments except the statement: 'I want to have HF' Wink

The owner created this policy to avoid hosts with affilate programs. Why? He wants a spam-free forum. Rapidshare isn't dead - not yet. It has only lost attractiveness for uploaders. I don't believe that it will survive another year. But it still can be used as well as the other 3 or 4 permitted filehosts.

If you really want to test another host then why the heck are you proposing one of the top-three spam hosts? Only sharingmatrix and oron are worse spam hosts than HF. If a test was really necessary then hosts with a lower spam rate could be used, for example easyshare, netload or filefactory. I am not proposing any of these three hosts, I just say that such a test shouldn't be done with spammy hotfile. The result is anyway predictable: all topics will be buried under loads of posts with the test host.

And if this test never happens then I am also happy.
mug67
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 21, 2010 12:57 am
I don't want to sound like a HF advocate and I'm not in the business of trashing RS. I have used the last of my RS points to get two years of premium (it may die sooner) and despite their dishonesty, I intend to keep using it for my uploads along with HF.

I don't know how some of you define spam but according to my knowledge, HF and RS are the only filehosts that don't have advertisement banners on their download page. No pop-ups, No trojans, No redirects. Nothing but download links.

The money thing in HF may attract cashwhores who corrupt the scene of free pr0n sharing, but if you look around you will see that almost all filehosts are offering such rewards, one way or another. Filehosting seems to be a cut throat business and they are competing to lure members. Even RS did that few months back.

After RS last announcement, saying "RS and torrents is a noble way to share free pr0n" is not a bad argument but...
* I used to torrent years ago but I lost interest coz torrents needs more time and bandwidth than direct links and they die in a month or two.
* RS keep changing their filehosting rules to the worse; MD5 hash blacklisting, 200 mb filesize limit for remote uploads, limited storage space, 60 days Inactive file rule and porn deletion by tracking traffic (RS claim they don't do it)
Such rules and tactics is driving porn uploaders away and they care no more.. My best guess, they are cashing out.

HF is not the best filehost around, but certainly it's not the worst. For now, it helps uploaders in keeping their uploads alive and unless that changes, I'll keep using it.
Arasai
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 21, 2010 2:17 am
Quote:
You can redeem them until July 6, 2010 after that no more points.

So in the future we cant even extend our membership by converting the points. Sad


Wow I didn't know that - I am going to use all my points now. RS is really doomed I think at this point. Thanks for the heads up.
tlusty
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 21, 2010 4:45 am
Personally, I was never a supporter of hotfile. But this latest news from Rapidshare has changed things. Unless the people at Rapidshare come back with a new type of rewards system, people WILL stop using it and there needs to be a replacement.
dFighter
Poster
Added: Jun 22, 2010 2:41 am
I heavily now am beginning to support use of Hotfile here, especially because Rapid exposed itself for the garbage it is.

    Free members are easily the most shafted. Rapidshare has, by far, the longest wait (75 seconds for a 100 meg file, and 60 minute cooldown!) whereas hosts like Hotfile and Sharingmatrix are nowhere near as demanding. The speed for Rapidshare is easily the slowest of the pack, except maybe Depositfiles. Altogether downloading files from here is by far the most pain than from any other forum, because so many files are Rapidshare and I have to wait so long to download.

    Paid members get a lot less bang for their buck. A cooldown/download cap for paying members is just unacceptable, compared to competition out there. This might have been offset by abundance of files there before, but won't be once I get to the next points - making Rapid all the more pointless.

    Uploaders have traditionally received far less for posting on Rapid than on other file-host services. Rapid-points were junk and is now being discontinued. You get a lot less to extend premium memberships or to earn money for your time uploading. Removing all rapid-points earned shows the lack of integrity - you get screwed out of what you had.

    Files used to be around a lot more, but are constantly being deleted at a far higher rate than other filehosts. The point is, Rapidshare is not doing enough to protect its uploaders whereas other file hosters are putting up a better battle in terms of removing files in compliance with demands, but not actively "scouting" or "policing" networks. Rapidshare, in addition, is closing accounts and removing all Rapid-points which, unlike cash, is not redeemable for anything but Rapidshare - making them pointless as they can be erased especially for the biggest earners at any time what so ever, whereas cash must be paid out in increments - for instance, for Hotfile I will lose only $10-20 of earned money tops, instead of thousands upon thousands of points.


The point is Rapidshare's old business model was "treat the customers like dirt to get more $$$ but they will pay anyway, as most of the files and rapidpoint earning potential are here." However, the business model is failing as more and more users are switching file-hosting to other providers who can provide a much better bargain at lower cost than RS - whether due to being based in different countries, or more stable servers, or just not as much greed. I think that we should adjust as a forum, and allow more hotfile.

This brings us to the other problem, link-dumpers. At XXX *, a mechanism used was to not allow posts in the biggest forums except by Donors, Super-Posters, and Moderators. I think we could have a "test" like this - have the best forums be VIP/application only or something, and allow most hosts. Others would have to stick posting Hotfiles or such in smaller forums, as well as participate in helping out the forum, and be **** to earn their status.[/list]

* don't name other boards, Loui375
danielitto
Poster
Added: Jun 24, 2010 2:53 am
is unfortunate this from rapidshare.
eh always use rapidshare, I've never really paid that if obtained all the points
is very limited upload my files to the remote upload 100mb.
Megaupload is only one of the greatest pity that do not give points on 100mb.

Would be a good solution Hotfile remote upload 400MB : D
sandarian
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 30, 2010 11:18 am
Anybody understand the latest news from rapidshare with those "rapids"? LOL!! Too confusing for me. Also it looks like that you can no longer convert premium points to free points so now I can't even extend for account for 12 months because I do not have nearly as my free points as premium. This is ridiculous. I think I will delete every file I have left on rapidshare today.
who-ever
Good Poster
Added: Jun 30, 2010 11:55 am
Hotfile does not expire files

If a file on Hotfile gets reported they send you an email (or they do to me)

Hotfile allows the same file to be uploaded after a report. Which means you can do a fast reup from a backup file server (from which you never post)

HF earnings can be used to fund your backup file server account - which is why you're not tempted to post from it.

Uploads to HF are consistently 33% faster than uploads to RS.

w-e