Yet another reason the Yankees SUCK

juliegirl wrote:

Hi JG - yeah, Billy was just joking, and as he said it was meant to be a compliment. Step away from the knife, mon ami.

I'm not exactly vouching for him -- hell I could never "vouch" for anyone who cheers solely for a team playing in a league where the pitcher doesn't hit (talk about a way to ruin the sport as it was meant to be played, ugh) -- but I've seen enough of his posts to know that he didn't mean any harm.


billyellis wrote:

I'm just copying and quoting this so that it appears in more than just Billy's post ... since he could always go back and edit his own.

Careful now Billy, and don't give any more people reason to cheer for the Rays.

Of course they'll probably stumble, but hey you gnever really gknow!

RM

well that clears that up...

women hear/read the same thing guys do... but each of us hears something different...

my apologies...

j

gnaughty Billy wrote:

gnaughty Billy wrote:

The Ramblin'us One'us wrote:
juliegirl wrote:

Ha! Ha! How ironic - a thread made to illustrate why the 'Yankees suck,' and ya have two Sawx fans brawlin' it up!







Sorry, but I couldn't resist. Actually, that brief misunderstanding perfectly illustrated why I am gno longer with the future Mrs. Krumble.

Yes, Julie, gnaughty Billy was giving you a gnice compliment - a lady might read it as: "wow, a man who likes Zinfindel, Boston, Sex and the City, and possibly Broadway plays. Too good to be true. You must be Billy!"

God Bless Bobby Murcer.
5/20/46 - 07/12/08

grimgies...

loved your post... lol... ...just loved it...

in the 9th pic, there is a man in a black (?) suit... with a funny lil hat... is he a fan...? he appears to be ready to toss a black suitcase in the catcher...

and............. i LOVE the player's sox: white with sock leggings over the white...

what year was that pic taken and why don't baseball players where those anymore...?

i so love you guys...

thanks, thanks, and thanks,
julie

billyellis wrote:



Obviously, you have not been following Tampa Bay. The team has been spending money and making all the right moves since Vince Naimoli lost control. The fact is the Rays are ahead of the Yankees with less than a fourth of the Yankees payroll salary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Rays

2005-2006 offseason: Front office and managerial changes

Shortly after the season ended, Stuart Sternberg, who bought into the ownership group in 2004, took over from Vince Naimoli as managing general partner, thus taking over executive control of the team. He immediately fired Chuck LaMar, who had been the team's general manager since the team's first season, and most of the front office. Matthew Silverman was named the team president, and Andrew Friedman took the role of Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations. Gerry Hunsicker, former General Manager of the Houston Astros, was named the Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations, with the responsibility of advising the younger Friedman. Sternberg decided not to have a de jure General Manager, calling the position "outdated". Friedman and Hunsicker share the role of team representative at MLB functions.[3]

The team focused its rebuilding efforts around young stars such as outfielders Carl Crawford, Rocco Baldelli, and Jonny Gomes, infielder Jorge Cantu (who hit 28 home runs and drove in 117 runs in 2005) and pitcher Scott Kazmir (who finished in the top 5 in the American League in strikeouts). Baldelli missed the entire 2005 season with injuries, but returned to the team in 2006. Also figuring into the Rays' future plans were Delmon Young and B.J. Upton, considered two of the best prospects in all of baseball.

In December 2005, Joe Maddon, the former bench coach for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, was named the new manager of the Devil Rays, the fourth in team history, replacing Lou Piniella in that role.

During the offseason, the new front office invested $10 million in improvements to Tropicana Field. Among the major changes were new club seating on the first base side, a 35-foot, 10,000 gallon touch tank holding 30 live cownose rays behind the right-center field fence[4], and the addition of the Ted Williams Museum and Hitters Hall of Fame, relocated from Citrus County.[5] Other changes to increase attendance and fan interest included free parking at all home games, allowing tailgating in the parking lot before games, allowing fans to bring their own food and drinks into Tropicana Field, lower ticket prices and concession prices, and an increased number of promotions and give-aways.


Roster moves

The Rays front office had promised to increase the team's payroll for the coming season. Whereas it was approximately $24 million in 2007, lowest in the majors [24], the "mid-30s" had been rumored as a minimum for 2008. But, after free-agency signings and contract extensions to players already on the roster, it was raised to $43 million [21]

While the Rays began the 2008 season with much the same lineup that ended the 2007 season, several key trades and free agent signings improved the team. The Rays traded Delmon Young, Brendan Harris, and Jason Pridie to the Twins for Matt Garza, Jason Bartlett, and Eduardo Morlan. The Rays signed a one-year deal with veteran relief pitcher Troy Percival who has taken over closer duties, moving Al Reyes into a role as a set-up man. The Rays signed Cliff Floyd, who has split time at designated hitter and right field. Top third-base prospect Evan Longoria was expected to be the starter at the hot corner while the Rays also signed the #1 pick in the draft last year, pitcher David Price, who was widely recognized as one of the top players in college baseball.

Well hold on there, now, Deity. So you are saying that once a team changes ownership, they immediately disconnect from the team's entire history?????????? Gee, I don't remember any Yankees fans ripping up their "1918" signs when the Red Sox changed ownership and revamped their front office style!

Congrats to the Devil Rays (screw the right-wing nutballs who whined about the name long enough that it got changed) for deciding (at least temporarily) to compete with the big boys. But a few good months does not instantaneously wipe away a decade of shame. I lived in the Redneck Riviera for a lot of those years, so while I applaud finally pushing Vince out of control, I see no real long-term commitment yet (where was the push to get Sabathia??). Instead, I have heard a lot more discussion of this being a cynical ploy by the new ownership in an election year to parlay a hot start into perhaps getting their rejected stadium public-financing plan back on the ballot in November.

So far all they have actaully done is get lucky with a bunch of young prospects all making the leap at the same time, which has kept them in the race thus far and prevented them from their usual trade-away-the-team mid-season plan. We don't really know if they have a new philosophy because their hands have been tied by being in and out of first place. Whether an early losing streak would have resulted in business as usual we will never know, will we? But that is "what might they have done the same old way if given the opportunity."

As for "what have they failed to do to demonstrate a new philosophy," they have already swung and missed at their first chance to do something significantly different (i.e., pay to bring in a game-changer in Sabathia). We will know by the upcoming trade deadline if this is a short-term sham to try and get public money to build a new stadium (i.e., they pick up someone uninteresting, or a washed-up big name, either of which at or near the league minimum salary), or whether this really is really the beginning of a new era in Tampa (they make a trade for a big-time player and give him a lucrative, long-term contract to stay in Tampa after the end of this season).

The jury is still out on the D-Rays. As I said, I lived there for a while, so I feel the pain of D-Rays fans (and my condolences to any sports fans whose are **** to suffer through a moron like the self-styled "Big Dog" on their local sports radio). I am only pointing out that there is no tangible evidence either way of what the new management REALLY has in store for the franchise long term.

EDIT: Question about the total payroll increase - I remember there being a push from the large market teams to revise the revenue sharing agreement to stipulate that revenue streams into small markets would be required to go into the team payroll instead of owners' pockets, but I don't recall if that was changed or not. Anyone know? That and inflation could easily account for the total payroll increase... Either way, isn't it hard to brag about how much more the payroll is now when it is still the 2nd lowest in MLB??

And thanks for the support, RM and GK.

My condolences on the passing of Bobby Murcer. By all accounts a decent human being who will be missed.

I was listening to the radio this morning and they were recalling an interview with him not too long ago when he got choked up thanking Red Sox fans for their letters and messages of support during his battle with brain cancer. Just goes to show you that we should all remember to take a step back once in a while and remember that life>>>>>>>>>sports.

So OK, MAYBE some Yankees fans are decent human beings. MAYBE. A few. Possibly...

This Just In:

The BSO has a better brass section than the NYP.

(Sorry. It's just been a long time since I posted on this thread).

Most Esteemed Gnome wrote:

BillyEllis wrote:

As I've said I'm not a Yankees fan, nor a Red Sox fan.

But I do remember some things that happened in Beisbol in the 1970s. Including the wild and wacky summer of 1979 in Baseball -- I was 13 yrs old, and Baseball was life. You may or may not know what I mean, that's okay. Anyway ...

I remember my own team starting out like they were going to win everything, not surprising after 3 division titles in a row. Then they won a real "pitcher's duel" at Wrigley Field by the score of 23-22 in the 10th inning (50 hits in that game) ... and then flopped the rest of the year finishing way out of contention despite Division titles and Championships in other years before and after. I remember Pop, aka Willie Stargell, leading and willing the Pirates to the Championship over the Orioles, with Sister Sledge singing "We Are Family" in the background, coming back from a 3-1 deficit in games, with Pop homering in Game 7. I remember Lou Brock and Yaz (there you go Billy) getting their 3000th hits. 500 Home Runs doesn't mean as much as it used to, but 3000 hits will always be 3000 hits. And if I remember, Yaz was part of one of the best Red Sox outfields in history (Rice, Lynn).

Most of all I remember one of the games' best catchers ever -- and best persons -- dying in a plane crash in early August. Thurman Munson was an unbelievable player and captain, and his death was a horrible loss for Baseball, let alone NY Yankee fans. I grew up half-way between Philadelphia and New York, so I had plenty of friends who were Yankee fans. Only reason he's not in the Hall of Fame is because he didn't get to play long enough, argh. In 1971 he committed only one error, remarkable for a catcher -- and his only error was due to the fact that he was knocked unconscious at a play at the plate and dropped the ball. Man, that is the stuff of legends.

I remember the team going to his funeral. And then they came back to Yankee Stadium to play a game that night that was on National TV (so in those days it must have been on ABC?). The Yankees beat the Orioles in one of the most emotional games I have EVER seen, coming from behind in the late innings.

All of the Yankees runs were driven in by Bobby Murcer, one of Munson's best friends. Including the game-winning hit in the bottom of the ninth inning, when it looked like they might lose instead. I think the entire stadium was crying, including all the players on both sides. Including Murcer when interviewed on National TV when he was dedicating the game to Munson's wife and family.

Even a Red Sox fan can appreciate that.

Gnome, didja see that game? And if so, how are your eyes right now?

Murcer had a really good career, though not quite Hall of Fame worthy. I think he was Hall of Fame worthy in more important ways though. Gobless him.


Shadowman wrote:


Yeah but that guy playing 2nd Trombone for the NYP is a real future superstar, wouldn't be surprised if he gets a big contract elsewhere to play 1st.

RM

Yeah, but there are rumors he has been taking performance enhancing drugs (LSD). And they found cork residue on his slide brace...


EDIT: Found this today on SI.com:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/08/newyork.yankees/index.html

It's a ****mable mosaic of high-res images taken at Yankee Stadium during a Yankees-Red Sox game. Apparently the NSA ran facial recognition software on the crowd, and they were able to determine that 50% of the Yankees fans in the bleachers had parents that were closely related, Appalachia style.

Seriously, though, if you ****m in on the pitcher, the reason for Beckett's mediocre first half becomes quite obvious - he has lost his right hand. I don't know how they are hushing this up.

Where, oh where has our Billy gone? Oh where, oh where can he be?!

Damn, Billy, you guys lose a series to the Bombers(and 4 outta the last 6 to us), and are getting rolled over by the Angels, and gnow ya ain't gnowhere to be found...whasssup wid-dat?

Manny's a punk, btw...

And cheers to all the Bosox fans in attendance at the second game of the Yankees series up there in Fenway - the only time they cheered the whole game was when Alex got hit by a pitch - verrrry classy!

And just a sidebar: props to the judge who felt a bat to the head of a husband and father vacationing up there in Boston wasn't a very serious crime...bet he likes to kick back a few with ol' Teddy boy...

Sometimes it pays to only visit a thread occasionally. I might have overlooked this otherwise.
1st. Wow. A girl who likes beer, Boston, porn, and possibly sports. Too good to be true. You must be a 54-year old dude. Smile
2nd. See pic below
3rd. in the 9th pic, there is a man in a black (?) suit... with a funny lil hat... is he a fan...? he appears to be ready to toss a black suitcase in the catcher...


Oh, well 3 out of 4 is still pretty damned good.

MANNY is finally fucking gone!!!!



To quote Clark Griswold, "I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Hallelujah!"

The generic response from all the know-it-alls in the media is that the Sox gave up too much. Please. All the crap we actually heard about is just the tip of the iceberg with that stupid fuck. When a team is that desperate to get rid of a future first-ballot HOF-er, most teams step back and say "Whoa, hang on a minute." But not the Dodgers, bless their little hearts.

Addition by subtraction.

Grimble Krumble wrote:
Where to start, my friend? First, the Sox have sucked ass since the break. But let's see what happens now that that asswipe clubhouse cancer is gone. A Morgan Magic redux? Maybe not, but they will be back in the hunt in 2 weeks. I hope. Otherwise I may end up having to set my head on fire...

As for the cheering A-Rod being hit...where the F is MLB with fines/suspensions for that gutless coward Chambermaid, who keeps throwing at Youkilis' head and getting away with it? You want to talk class? The only two pitchers in my lifetime who have consistently thrown at batters' heads are Farnsworth and Chamberpot. Yankees. Anyone who was unlucky enough to be watching Tony Conigliaro's promising career effectively end with one such pitch (that he came back to post the numbers he did after that injury is simply a testament to how great he was going to be) would never cite class in defense of any coward on the mound who deliberately tries to kill another baseball PLAYER during a GAME. When that punk Pedro threw at guys, at least he threw below the shoulders. So talk all you want about cheering A-Rod taking one in the thigh. All I know is that Joba Chamberlain had better not ever walk around the streets of Boston for the rest of his life. You don't intentionally throw at someone's head. It's just a game.

Whew. Big exhale.

With regard to the judge thing, I guess I missed that one. Do you have a link to the story?

Grimble Krumble wrote:
Motherf-er. How did I miss that one before? Ironically, I don't care for wine at all, I loathe S&TC, and I can't stand 99% of musicals. So I don't quite fit the profile. Nice one, though.