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erixx
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Added: Apr 03, 2005 1:06 pm
Once again you have produced a literate well written argument for reducing the legal age to 15. I can only wish that this would happen. We both know that this will not happen, though, and that if legislators were to have their way they would change the age to 21 or higher. In the end we have created a society that is supposedly safer than other societies and, to a certain extent, it is the result of imposing laws and en**** them as well. There are plenty of countries that impose laws and then sit back and let everyone violate them with impunity.

I am in favor of changing the legal age to 15. Let's organize together and get lawmakers to institute that change. Let's get thousands of Teenfuns Forum signatures and submit them to Congress with a request for a bill changing the legal age to 15. Woohoo! We will be famous. Millions of men will cheer and Internet Porn will be happier for it.
ciggy
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Added: Apr 03, 2005 4:11 pm
The strange thing about the legal age in the U.S. is that many states have fairly low ages on the books but that only applies if the boy involved is nearly as young as she is. For example, in Minnesota you can fuck a girl as young as 12 but only if you are less than 2 years older than her.

So think of this scenario: a 13 year-old boy is getting lucky with a 12 year-old girl, probably both having their first time in bed together, and it's all legal because they're both young and experimenting and so on, but IF the boy produces a camera and takes pictures of her while doing it, then the boy has violated federal law and will go to jail.

Or in a state where the legal age of consent for everyone is 16 (a pretty common age), it's legal to fuck a girl of 16 but NOT legal to take PICTURES of her. How insane is that? Isn't full out sex a more complete and comprehensive sexual act than merely taking nude photos of her?

So a big part of the problem in the twisted and legally diseased U.S. is not just the matter of age itself, but the contradictions between different ages at which you can do different things.

Canada is similarly screwed up: their age of consent is 14. You can FUCK a girl who is 14 years old in Canada, and nobody can do anything at all to you. That is, UNLESS you PAY her to put out, then you go to jail (she can't become a prostitute until 18 ). And of course, there too you also go to jail if you take nude pictures of the same girls 14 to 18 that are legal to FUCK (if you do it for free).

The western world is very very confused.

Setting a legal age of maturity to 15 across the board for all activities (including nude photography) would resolve many issues, not least of which is the nonsensical contradiction of being able to fuck a girl whom it would be IL_LEGAL to photograph. It would be getting back to the long tradition and natural path of humanity, and in some legal jurisdictions it would amount to actually even raising the age of consent TO 15, from young_er ages.

It's not all about being a devilish horny old man, but it is about logic, consistency, reason, and harmony with nature.
Sato
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Added: Apr 28, 2005 3:27 am
I prefer 18 plus, as the models of Angelfuns and Teenfuns, but the true love does not have age, it can have ties 40, 50, who knows where this the true love?
Dominus Primus
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Added: May 05, 2005 4:46 am
Amen, Ciggy, I completely agree!
elf_punk
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Added: May 26, 2005 10:31 pm
WOW CIGGY!!
So cool to see that the spirit of thoughtful exchange is still going strong around here!
You are obviously more experienced at expressing yourself than I, combined with a good head for US History.
Hats off to you my friend!
- Eros the Elf Punk
Snigom
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Added: May 27, 2005 4:52 am
Indeed Cigy, you are the voice of pure reason in this forum. <insert Saluting Emoticon here!>

ELF-PUNK! Your ALI-LIKE return to the forum is truly a spectacle and I myself have just made a return.

Nice banner! Very Happy
Sword
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Added: May 30, 2005 5:00 pm
I agree with Sato, 18+ is fine with me.
RealityFracture
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 13, 2005 2:35 pm
this is hands down the best read i've had in a LONG time.(not counting the bourne ultimatum... god bless Ludlum.)

its also nice to see there are people here that know what they rant about(ciggy, elf_punk and that one english git:P)

my opinion on the age subject is this: if she's both physically and mentally ready to 'reproduce', there aint nothin wrong with screwin her... but then, what do i know... im just a wee tiny, not yet eighteen year old coutry bumpkin with a hormone problem. (im gonna be 18 this weekend, for those of you that want to know.)

my opinion on our current president: seems like a nice fellow he dous, as far as the Iraq war is concerned(i know no one brought it up, but its the main reason for everyone disliking the guy)...
what would you be sayin if he had NOT done anything.

Or if he'd left right after we got most of the people we where gunnin for...

If we would'nt have countered the 9/11 attacks, people would have pissed on Bush sayin Clinton would have been a man and bombed the crap out of the Terrorists. But seeing as Bush did the latter of the two options, Clinton would have done better because he was really such a nice, peace loving(read: secretary banging), kinda guy.

That said, if we would have left right after we caught Sadam, or at any time after he was no longer in power, Bush would be an asshole because the entire middle east would either have tore itself apart or attacked europe and the US again.

IMHO... we should turn the whole middle east into glass, but thats too simple and too inhumane.(note to those that dont get it, sand turns into glass when it gets really hot.)

read that till it all makes sense, or dont.. i leave it up to you.


congrats to anyone that can stomach my first post on this ere' forum... ive decided to actively engage in posting, rather than just wanking at free pictures and snaggin some vids offa here.


ok, time for porn.. oh, i mean "art": its Ivana
Elmo
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Added: Jul 13, 2005 4:10 pm
RealityFracture wrote:
If we would'nt have countered the 9/11 attacks,
people would have pissed on Bush sayin Clinton would have been a man
and bombed the crap out of the Terrorists. But seeing as Bush did the
latter of the two options, Clinton would have done better because he was
really such a nice, peace loving(read: secretary banging), kinda guy.

That said, if we would have left right after we caught Sadam, or at any
time after he was no longer in power, Bush would be an asshole because
the entire middle east would either have tore itself apart or attacked
europe and the US again.


Good morning and welcome. Am I to assume from your quote above that
you think Iraq had anything at all to do with 9/11? Or do you just consider
Afghanistan and Iraq to be one big country?

I got your WMDs right here.
RealityFracture
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Added: Jul 14, 2005 3:00 pm
No, i do not believe them to be one and the same.
However i do believe their people and governments where or are still under terrorist influence, which i believe we should not allow.
Im not just referring to the middle east when i say that.
Look at England, or the Netherlands... they too have terrorists walkin around in their country's killing innocent people for no apparent reason.
Its my belief we should put a stop to that, and i dont think what they are doing now is going to make that happen.

I mean, do you think that making it legal to obliterate everyone's privacy(read everything you say or type on your computer or your phone, AND be allowed to store the information, wether it is relevant or not)is really going to stop terrorists?
Because that is what the UK is trying to do, and probably will succeed in doing.

Anyway, enough political ranting from my part... shouldnt have brought it up cause no one ever agrees with me.


also... WMD?
Elmo
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Added: Jul 14, 2005 5:05 pm
WMD. Weapons of Mass Destruction. The excuse Bushlet used to
invade Iraq, even though it was subsequently proven they do not exist.
Furthermore, evidence has come out showing that it was previously
known they didn't exist. The US and UK governments knew they couldn't
justify an attack to the UN without implying there was a threat from Iraq.

Mark my words: Syria and Iran are next, probably in that order. I wonder
what justification will be used this time. A bad falafel?
Ever Dream
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 14, 2005 6:22 pm
I seriously think we should have a forum somewhere just for those below the legal age to post revealing pictures of themselves.
We could get around the rules involved by speaking purely metaphorically, that way it's plausibly deniable. -_-;;

Example:

While looking for reflections of nymphs in their nature state. My turnips listen for the soft cry of my desire.
My insides turn to celery as I unleash my warm and sticky cauliflower of love.
I wish i could harvest their tomato patch, but alas they will not accept my fresh produce. o.O;;

Anyone care to help with this problem?
Elmo
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Added: Jul 14, 2005 8:58 pm
I can't help at all. You just made my cauliflower go all woody.
Slate_Misthawk
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Added: Jul 15, 2005 12:13 am
Hey RealityFracture if your so in support of the war, go to your local recruiters office and sign up this weekend. Volunteer to go. First time one of your buddies gets blown up in front of you see if you still think we should be in Iraq.

Afganistan was fine. Iraq had absolutly nothing to do with al Qaeda. Nothing. Osama hated Sadam because, his invading Kuwait brought the US into Saudi Arabia. Osama hates the Saudi government, but he loves the land. The only reason he does not like the US is because we went to Saudi and stayed, and because of our support of Isreal, but mostly because of Saudi. Isreal and the Palestinians only make good retoric for him.

Do some research about this. Learn about the culture there. Most middle east Muslims feel the same way about the US, they want us out of Saudi, and they want us to quit unilaterally supporting Isreal.
UFOxx
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Added: Jul 15, 2005 4:58 pm
that's really very hard question.. beauty is itself beyond agelimits..

personally i like everything but publically i would rather say "lagal age" Wink