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elf_punk
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Added: Jan 13, 2005 11:18 am
just to rock the boat, i put under 15... (but still above puberty... i simply don't understand the pre-pube thing)
but by no means is that all i find beautiful, and that is the key phrase i think... find beautiful...
i'm actually a bit surprised on the amount of reservation expressed by so many members here...
i don't think there is anything wrong at all with finding a girl under 18 attractive; i think that a girl can become sexually appealing at any point after which she begins to biologically blossom into a fully functional sexual creature...
our society's (current) standards dictate that we must turn a blind eye to such sexuality, but it is there regardless...
but not all girls are there mentally at the same time that they begin to get there physically, and this makes all the difference. it is also an unfortunate side-effect of the pandering nature of our culture that conditions us to remain ****ren too long, resulting in a number of dysfunctions, from unhealthy sexual activity (and i don't mean unhealthy in the same way our culture defines it; our culture would have us believe that ANY premarital, pre-adulthood sex is inherintly unhealthy) to difficulties with simple self-sufficiency in early adulthood...
the girl who is mentally up to speed with her body is rare, but when it is there it is a beautiful thing...
i would venture to say that many of us who have seen the girls on teenfuns have seen examples of this; sure they are all over 18 (now), but does anyone really think they were any less sexually comfortable with themselves - or any less appealing - just a couple years ago?
and then there are the even more rare ones - the nymphettes as nabokav referred to them - those rare delightful creatures who seem to come into their sexuality with absolute ease and unmeasurable power at the first sparks of puberty....
would i ever have sex with a girl under 15? absolutely not... but i can appreciate their sensuality and respect them as sexual creatures instead of pretending they're still ****ren as the rest of our culture does...
so basically i think the age group of prime sexual appeal for me with girls is 15 to 21, generally.
but i have been attracted to women as old as their forties, too...
in fact, there is one woman i know in her 50's who blows my mind...
so it is fair to say that i really and truly believe in the notion that "age is just a number"... and don't just use that quote as a schtick for masking guilty feelings about taboo attractions...
it is all about VITALITY and YOUTHFULNESS... but youthfulness and vitality are not necessarilly chronologically bound....
NOW....
If you have actually read this whole stream-of-thought diatribe of mine, you fucking ROCK!!! i have immense respect for people who can get their kicks above the waistline as well as below it....
and GS (if even you have read this far), maybe this fucking ESSAY of mine deserves special note on the points system too... hehe... yeah, i am working it every chance i get...
yours,
eros the elf punk
mummy
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Added: Jan 13, 2005 8:26 pm
I read AND enjoyed, elf punk.
elf_punk
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Added: Jan 13, 2005 8:34 pm
mummy wrote:
I read AND enjoyed, elf punk.

WOW... i am impressed AND flattered... seriously...
thanx a ton Mummy
mummy
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Added: Jan 14, 2005 7:26 am
No prob, man. I would have written more of a reply but I had to get to my job. And now I have to get to bed. Maybe soon. But I like that our members have brains and aren't merely skulking pervs. (Although skulking perversity is cool, too! Very Happy ) Peace.
elf_punk
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Added: Jan 14, 2005 7:59 am
mummy wrote:
No prob, man. I would have written more of a reply but I had to get to my job. And now I have to get to bed. Maybe soon. But I like that our members have brains and aren't merely skulking pervs. (Although skulking perversity is cool, too! Very Happy ) Peace.

I'm too tired for a worthy response right now and heading to bed myself, but had to again say thank you... It feels good to be appreciated, even by perfect strangers.
Super Pornicator
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Added: Jan 14, 2005 2:40 pm
elf_punk wrote:
mummy wrote:
No prob, man. I would have written more of a reply but I had to get to my job. And now I have to get to bed. Maybe soon. But I like that our members have brains and aren't merely skulking pervs. (Although skulking perversity is cool, too! Very Happy ) Peace.

I'm too tired for a worthy response right now and heading to bed myself, but had to again say thank you... It feels good to be appreciated, even by perfect strangers.


You totally hit it on the head elf_punk. I think the line should really be drawn at sexual maturity rather than 18. 18 is very blurry line to enforce anyways. I've seen 14 year-olds that hit up college campuses and are always mistaken for 24. Sexual immaturity however, would be impossible to hide in pictures where girls have their legs spread.
Calahan
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jan 14, 2005 2:50 pm
Very well written, elf_punk!
Couldn't have said it better...

All the best,
Calahan
elf_punk
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Added: Jan 14, 2005 3:19 pm
You guys rock...
I have been a part of a couple different forums, and honest-to-god, as cheesy as it fucking sounds, I really do join for the commoraderie (sp?) as much as the eye candy.
One of the biggest frustrations in my life has been stuff related to sex and sexuality...
Began "playing naked" with the boy across the street when I was nine.
Looked at my first magazine of guys when I was about the same age and remember wanting to suck the cock of this younger-John-Travolta looking dude who had to have been at least twenty five.
Then , oh man, when I discovered the pleasure of girls at thirteen, a whole new world, and the girl I lost my virginity to had been having sex with guys twice her age for at least a year!
So from from many perspectives, I am lucky, and from many perspectives I know first-hand what the fuck I am talking about when it comes to the sexual-potential in us at younger ages.
And I have been honest with myself about my attraction to girls of younger-than-legal age since I was 21. I believe that it is in secrecy and denial that harm and danger lay, where harmless attractions fester into destructive perversions. I don't believe that the erotic attraction to a sexually magnetic, budding female of thirteen years is INHERENTLY "perverted." Since coming to terms with this aspect of my sexual identity, I have discovered that I am FAR from alone; that in fact, when engaged in private, honest discussion, I cannot think of a guy-friend I have who has not admitted to the same attraction. I have met so many otherwise healthy, caring, cool, creative, and fun, life-loving people online in my efforts to meet and understand others like myself, that I KNOW this is not an inherently bad thing. I have studied human sexuality, anthropology, and sexual psychology throughout college, so I KNOW that the soocial taboos of our culture that we are raised to believe are simple UNIVERSAL TRUTHS (!!) are in fact UNIQUE to our culture and in the opinion of many authorities, quite detrimental to our well being as individuals and as a society.
Hmmmm.....
Fuck, you guys really got me rolling... I am sooo fucking delighted that even just a handful of ya read this shit. FOr the same reason that you stated mummy in your first response here, because it shows that I'm not just in the midst of depraved pervs (not that I didn't know that already, but this is the clincher)
THANX FOR INSPIRING ME!!!!!!
(Hope I inspired you a li'l in return)
More 2 Cum,
EROS THE ELF PUNK
markus1
Retired Legend
Added: Jan 14, 2005 6:49 pm
I have nothing to add here really for fear of detracting from your statement Elf-punk. All I can say is I'm glad you're part of this forum (as well as all the other cool people here) Very Happy
elf_punk
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Added: Jan 14, 2005 7:03 pm
markus1 wrote:
I have nothing to add here really for fear of detracting from your statement Elf-punk. All I can say is I'm glad you're part of this forum (as well as all the other cool people here) Very Happy

DUDE! Markus!! You are a beautiful man! Thanx so much daddio. That was really really nice. You rock.
Snigom
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Added: Jan 15, 2005 2:52 am
Hey Elf_punk, You really ahve a way woth words. Very few people, even in US have a third of your Vocabulary. I hardly ever use those words and I consider myself fairly articulate. EXCELENT!!!

As for your points, I totally agree. I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with young girls. I learned long ago the difference between lust, love, and admiration. I have taken 3 classes in Life-drawing. In those classes we had everything from y.o.u.t.h. to Old and grey. Skinny, Muscular, and fat. After countless sketches and models you begin to see the "secrets" of the human body. Y.ou.ng girls (age 15-1Cool as they begin to bud, show certain secrets of the human body and how it forms into Woman hood. If you did nothing but study "woman" at age 22 and up, you will loose a certain level of appreciation.

Like I said in another forum regarding this subject; I feel I shouldn't have to be ashamed to look at a beautiful y.oung girl. Now, it's when you dwell on the subject in your mind and begin to fantisize sexually about it, is when you create a problem. Why? Because you run the high risk of getting into an "addict" syndrome where fantasy is not enough, you have to have the real thing.

Anyway, Elf Punk's dual speech now has me all inspired Embarassed

I mean guys...come on lets face it; we cannot pretend that we "don't" want to look at y.u.ong girls, because the whole point of TF is to look at y.ou.ng girls.

We're all on the same page...more or less Wink

Thanks Elf-Punk
Mr.Paranoid
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Added: Jan 15, 2005 3:12 am
Hi Elf,

I did understand your post. And man I do like to look at those girls Mmmmmm…. But there is a wrong thing about it and that is probably the appealing thing. Hell if every girl from the age of puberty till 18 was photographed in 100 exotic poses put on the Internet Like military service than there would not be a problem.

But the problem is, talk to a thir teen or tw e lve year old girl and she knows everything and in her mind, she is totally there and at one. But as we know she isn’t. And for that reason dirty old men can exploit them and when they get to an age where they know what happened and they can understand what happened they are fucked and some time literally.

The whole Idea of this is for a small amount of money you can get a girl to take off her cloths, exposing her goodies for everyone to see, then to be posted on the net. At some point in time she will regret it or become a dirty cum filled Ho. The sell her ch i ld’s virginity to get a car. But an under mental mature girl say un d er 18 you can talk her into anything and you don’t need money. The problme.

If you can find a girl that is totally willing and understand what she is doing at say four teen then that is the exception. Of that one there is a thousand that don’t and are just being abused. I doubt in 10 years time that many of the girls on these sites will be happy and at one with what they are doing here.

All that a side hell thy look good and as I’m over the age of ever being able to get one of these girls well I will just look at them and say wow!!!!

I always say beauty is wasted on the youth. When our girls where looking like that I was playing with cars Stupid Stupid man. :’o{

I do understand and feal the same way to some intent.
Super Pornicator
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Added: Jan 15, 2005 3:42 am
I actually think its unnatural NOT to be attracted to younger girls. We're biologically supposed to be attracted to any girl that's sexually mature. Only decades ago, people in the US were getting married in their teens. In other countries, people still get married in their early teens. In ancient Rome, when people only lived to be about 30, you can bet that they started having sex the minute their little bodies were capable of it.

It's just sad that people have to publicly deny what thousands of years of evolution have placed inside of us. I can see that no parent would want a 30 year old man boning their little girl, and so I totally agree with laws regarding statutory **** and molestation and all of that; they're necessary to protect our ****ren, but there's no reason for the attraction itself to be considered a perversion as long as its not hurting anyone and remains just an attraction. Just look at Britney Spears, where would her career be if most men in the world weren't secretly attracted to teenaged girls? I even thought she looked too young when she first came out and here I am, a Teenfuns subscriber chatting on this forum. Anyone who has a problem with our pictures is probably a hypocrite.
elf_punk
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Added: Jan 15, 2005 5:57 am
i have SOOO much to say ... so much that i am gonna need to chew on it for a day or two...... get myself a little more organized than the stream-of-thought approach that's worked ok so far...
but for now i can definitely say THIS:
It thrills me to no fucking end to see this exchange going on... it really does....
Glad you guys are into it with me.
- Eros the Elf Punk
mummy
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Added: Jan 15, 2005 6:07 am
Here, here. Keep this thread alive and rolling. I, too, hope to reply again when I have the wind. This is my favorite post so far.