Yet another reason the Yankees SUCK

ludedewd wrote:

Uh huh. Methinks you summed up the sole purpose of this thread, LD - puuuuuurrrre jealousy!

billyellis wrote:

Ah, gnow, ya see, our Billy is verrry clever! He makes it sooo hard to rank on him and his Sawwwx! But, hell, ya gotta agree with what he says, no?

'Sides, I gnever hated the Sox - gnever had to, we always beat them. And, what with all the allegations of steroid use by the heroes of that '04 World Series team, methinks Grimble would have good reason to hate the Sawx, I still don't. Billy gknows that I always liked Dewey Evans and Jim Rice. Ted Williams was a god. Seriously, what man has ever lived to say that he, gnot once, but twice, served his country faithfully (heroically) in his prime, losing a bunch of valuable years to put up more gnumbers, and still be considered one of the best ever in his sport? Methinks he really wanted to play for the Yanks.

DYasha wrote:

You'd think that this would be true, DYasha, but it isn't, and the Yankees are the ultimate case in point. The Yankees have always made the mistake of trying to buy championships after an initial success. The whole of the 80's are proof of that, as has been the last 9 years. My boss (a New York Mess fan) just said today that with the Yankees, anything less than a WS ring is considered a failure. And he said it in a mocking, sarcastic way. I said he is exactly right, and that's why the Yankees have 26 championships. The sole purpose of the Yankees organization is to win, and to do so with class. That's the point, ain't it? Otherwise, why bother?

I can honestly say that this is the best Yankee team in awhile, and is as good as the '98 team. C.C. is a strong CY candidate, and who would you pick for the MVP? Tex? Jeet? That ohhh soooo hated ex Bosock, Damon? Soon to be 8 players with 20 homers... And, aside from Damon, they all ain't at home! Since switching to his relief role, Phil Hughes has been the most effective reliever in the league, aside from Mariano. All that, and the 28 million dollar man has been flying low under the radar... But he does hustle, and he humbles himself night after night standing behind Jeter on the steps of the dugout. ...almost like a k id wishing he could be as cool and in with the cool k id at school. The team has amazing chemistry. Gno attitudes (yeah, Jorgie is always pissed off, but that's Jorgie. ) at all.

Grimble has the crazy gnotion that this might be the start off another dynasty!

Heh heh, crazy, huh...?















bil wrote:

Because in NASCAR they bump each other.

A lot of football clubs are heavily in debt. Sooner or later that will catch up to the clubs. Liverpool has a massive debt load and the interest on it is pretty substantial (from what I've heard).

There is massive debt, especially with the top-teams, but the top teams generate massive amounts of money, fans. The reason liverpool are in debt is because thet were sold to Hicks and Gillete. The way they financed the deal seems to progrssively made it worse for them. They had a chance to sell it on to 'Abu Dabi Group' (something like that) and they are worth Trillions, never mind they bought Man City.
Plus Sky pumps in billions.

That said what goes up must come down. Look at all the billions and trillions we've had to 'pump' into the banks to keep commercialism and capitalism afloat. OFF TOPIC

Yeah, but the money generated doesn't cover the interest payments, let alone pay down the massive debt load held by Liverpool and other such clubs, and this is a bit off topic.

The point being, is that even the Yankees have been effected by the economic downturn, though it just means their profit margin isn't as big as it once was. There needs to be a hard salary cap in baseball and more revenue sharing, otherwise it will be the Yankees and Red Sox (barring any bonehead decisions by either club) vying for the AL East title. That isn't sports, it a monopoly or duopoly.

Just thought I'd throw that out there to you and the rest of the fans.
As a fan of another NY team this harkens back to 1996 and the discomfort that stirred in my bowels due to the matchup.
I am in a position which has I cannot win which is unfortunate.
Hate Philly, abhor the yankees. But the latter mainly because of the silver spoon born fans (you are one of the few exceptions to the rule AFAIgK).
I suppose I will have to hope Philly wins so I can listen to sports radio but I typically don't get my wishes.
I hope they don't find me in a similar predicament as that Madoff cronie down in Fla...

*sigh*

Pennant teams: Dodgers, Phillies, Angels, Yankees. I have been rooting for the Yankees, dammit, because I loathe the other teams/cities so much.

I forgot to add this the other day:

John Sterling & Susan Waldman.
The WORST announcers not currently employed by EsPN (lowercase 's' to signify the emphasis is not on sports).
Sterling is no more than a circus clown who couldn't call a play if his life depended on it; all he wants to do is make himself a part of the game with his buffoon-esque calls.
And Waldman? Well, at least she's on radio and not TV if you know what I mean.
All I can remember of her is her idiotic exclamation, "It's Rawjah Clemmins in Jawge's bawx!"

Now in a weeks time I'm going to learn that I'll have to hear Sterling's call for all eternity when they effing win...

Maybe I should move across the pond.

The Yankees sure did suck tonight. 6-1 and A-Roid struck out three times.

Congratulations (I just threw up a little in my mouth) to the 2009 NYY, WS Champions.

billyellis wrote:

Thank you, Billy.

Well, another season is well under way. And wouldn't ya gknow it, da Yanks look good again! I really like this team. Lotta talent and a lotta chemistry. The starting rotation is one of the best I've seen in awhile. Hughes is lights out. And he'll only get better. Joba is back where he belongs, and Mariano is the energizer bunny. Jeet will put up MVP #s. 40,120+ for A-roid and Tex. .350, 35, 110 for Robbie Cano. Swish-a-lish will get 30+ 80+. Granderson, as well. And right gnow, Brett Gardner is batting .346(.370 against lefties - they were going to platoon him against lefties)!

While Tampa looks very good, and young, methinks in the end, it will be the Bronx Bombers, repeating history beating the Phils in six. The Yanks will win 110 games in the regular season (crazy, I gknow, but you'll see). Boston won't make the playoffs (sorry, BE), and the Muts probably won't either (sorry, LD).

Stirring up the pot...? Maybe, but somebody had to bring some life back to this thread.

OMFG you Yankee fans are fair-weather bandwagoneers!

You waited until after Beckett sucked ass again to post your gloating. Weak, my friend. Weak.

However, methinks you are partly correct - Boston is clearly the odd-man out in terms of making the playoffs. On the other hand, you are wrong in thinking that NY can get past Tampa in October.

Final AL East predictions:

1. Tampa 106-56
2. NYY 98-64
3. Boston 96-66

AL playoff predictions:

Tampa over LAA 3-0
NYY over Detroit 3-0

Tampa over NYY 4-1

(Tampa over Phillies 4-2)

While it pains me to say this (I HATE the Rays), last season was an aberration. The year before they shot out of the gate and stayed good even though everyone in the world expected them to come back to Earth eventually. Same thing this year - they will maintain their pace better than the Spankees, who are old and will have more injuries and missed time in the rotation. Boston's rotation will get better (although Beckett appears to now be their worst starter) and will close the gap with NY to some degree. But while Boston will be sllightly better against everybody else this year, the Yankees will own them head-to-head in 2010, and will finish with a better record despite their inevitable injury issues.

Minnesota will fade as they play outdoor baseball at home in the Fall for the first time in 30 years and their pansy players need heaters in the dugout. The AL West is pathetic once again despite Seattle's pitching duo, and the Angels will eventually float to the top like a turd in the ocean.

So it will come down to an old, beat-up slugging team against a much younger, faster, more athletic team with a deeper rotation. Game-set-match Rays.

Then the over-rated Phillies will fall because this time around Tampa is not a bunch of k1ds blown away by playing the WS.

My only question with NY this season is...how, with an 87-year old suddenly having 'rejuvenated' his career after a steady decline a few years back, is there no whisper of HGH or other chemical abuse with Mariano Rivera??? His sudden upswing in performance after a completely predictable rough stretch from 2004-2007 as he hit his 40's is way, way too suspicious for there not to be any discussion of this at all. And he is one of the few Yankees I actually like, so I am not throwing that out there to be a dick. But NO player at his age does what he is doing now, just like that was one of the major red flags with Bonds and Clemens and their unexpected and completely unprecedented old-age resurgences.

See now, leave it to beisbol to bring back some old forum-geezers.


I'm glad you both agree on who the best team is in the National League -- my Phillies. They're doing great despite being decimated by injuries at key positions (SS, C, RP) ... I mean, I don't think that Brad Hoover, David Herndon, and Wilson Valdez are household names exactly. Plus some of their stars haven't done very much so far (e.g. da Big Fella). Yet they're still at the tops of the weak NL, and will only get better as the season progresses. This week they get to practice with 2 games vs. the I-rates and 2 games vs. the Schlubs -- both at home -- before hosting Boston during this first weird interleague weekend (yes Billy, you'll get Halladay). I think J-Roll is back in action, which is awesome, he only played for one week. Without him, they only score about 6-7 runs per game. With him, 10.

How can you not like my boyz?? They're throwbacks, playing the game like its supposed to be played, starting with Uncle Charlie ... how can anyone dislike Charlie Manuel? And Moyer? For God's sake, he's 78 years old and pitching some of his best ever. Hitters are swinging and missing at his junk like the Gashouse Gorillas were waving at Bugs Bunny slow-pitch. Utley ... can anyone BE more hard-nosed and intense, and then use the F-word in front of millions of people on TV? The Flyin' Hawaiian (Victorino), he's impossible to dislike, he's got to be the best clubhouse guy ever. Werth is a superstar in the making. Ibanez is an alien, and looks like it. J-Roll ... Howard ... on and on, maaaaan, they're fun.

At the beginning of the year I thought Grimble's Cincinnatuh Red-legs were the best team in the weak NL Central, with all of their pitching. They're finally starting to show now, and hopefully they'll get Volquez back sometime. In the West, it will be the Dodger's offense versus the Giant's pitching (San Diego will fold). I like the Giants to win, with the Laddies picking up the wild card .. and losing to my Phillies in the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row, hehe.

In the other league -- you know, the quasi-baseball league where for some game-desecrating reason the pitcher doesn't have to hit and there's also some big fat/slow/old offensive-only player who doesn't have to play in the field, and the teams have been constructed that way which draws more fans because they have more offense and therefore they can pay higher salaries so they've gradually siphoned off better players from the National League making it weaker, so that American League fans crow about how sucky the NL is while they further on some bastardized form of the game -- now, what was I saying? Oh yeah.

In THAT league I think the Yankees are the best. They've done quite well despite having lots of injuries, and like the Phightin's some of their key players have done butkus so far, yet they're right there with Tampa Bay again, and they'll get better. I don't care much about the other 2 divisions, as it will be either MinneSOta or Detroit again, and then maybe Texas as they have the most talent. Boston would probably win those other 2 divisions but they'll finish in 3rd in the East.

Personally I would love for the Phils to play the Yankees again in the World Serious, and maybe this time someone on their bench will get a friggin' HIT, not to mention Howard -- who was dominating in the NLDS and NLCS -- won't go suddenly cold and forget how to stay back against soft-tossing lefties (he does that from time to time). People say Halladay will make a difference, but he wouldn't have in last year's Series, as Lee won their only 2 games. It was, in fact, their bench, and other starters (like Headcase Hamels). This year they'll have revenge.

And if its the Rays, even better. Phils spanked them once, and they'll do it again. What, you think they don't know how to pitch to Pat the Splat? They'd hit those Florida Floozies with a little bit of that nice cold wet fall northeast weather again, and then Maddon can wear all the hoodies he wants to but it won't matter.


billyellis wrote:

Now Billy, look at me. I'm hunched over, putting my 2 hands down near the ground as if I'm fielding a ground ball ... on wobbly legs, moving to me left. Oopsie, it goes right through! Who am I?


RM

Now that is just uncalled for.

There's no "We" unless you're on the payroll. Remember that.

Deity wrote:

So noted!


billyellis wrote:

Yeah, sorry about that ... I had no idea Papelbon would suck so much last night and put you in such a foul mood. Not to mention the thought of Grimble dancing around his living room after Thames walk-off homer ... after first dancing around after A-Roid's timely dinger. But in any case, didn't mean to kick you when you were down.


Then again, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Calling my boyz overrated, grumble grumble harrumph. And dude, we've only had, what, a fifth of the season? Boston is pretty darn good, they'll get better and work their way back into it, I bet.


Anyway the Billy Ellis I remember would have ripped me a new one for some of what I wrote. What happened, mi amigo? Did you get married or something? Takes all the life out of a guy, yep.


RM