Michael Vick Reinstated

i bet he now tortures guinea pigs and starves fish and kills turtles

doesnt deserve another chance, life is hard.

Some people deserve second chances, but what he did was deliberate, and he did it over and over again. He didn't make one mistake, he made a whole series of mistakes over and over again and only stopped because he got thrown in prison. If he hadn't been caught, he still would have been doing the exact same thing. That is why I don't believe he deserves a second chance.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. Vick is a low life creep and Philadelphia has made a huge mistake. I wish that asshole would just crawl back under his rock and we would never hear his name again.

buckethead wrote:

Look at Terrell Owens. Everyone knows he is a loud mouth and causes trouble, but yet every time he is cut some other team picks him up and foots that high price to sign him.

DYasha wrote:

You sound like you are speaking from experience here. You must have been convicted of a felony and have had trouble finding a job and cause Vick got reinstated it touched a nerve and sent you off on a rant. Maybe I am wrong and if so I apologize. I'm not trying to start a argument or flame war here.

I don't condone what he did at all, but I do agree with the other posters that everyone deserves a second chance, some more than others. But hey if he does it again and gets caught then you can play Hanging Judge and tell us all I told you so.

the same people that bitch and whine about Vick getting a second chance are the same people that don't say shit about Ray Lewis pleading no contest to murder and letting his cousin or friend or who ever it was take the fall. How about Leon Little KILLING a human being while drinking and driving and STILL playing in the NFL even though he got caught drinking and driving AFTER he killed someone

These people prob don't even know about that, they prob only know about Vick through people magazine or CNN. They all just sit on their moral thrown and say Vick doesn't deserve a 2nd chance even though he lots over a 100 million and served 2 years in jail. I may be mistaken but i am pretty sure he was the FIRST person ever to serve time for dog fighting. The man paid his debt to society and by the early looks of it, is looking to learn and become a better human being from his mistakes

amth wrote:

The subject is about Vik so, naturaly he got thrashed without much mention of other scumbags (as I mentioned in my comment). Yes, the others you've mentioned shouldnt be there either. If you start a thread about them, I'll be happy to join in.

Nobody said they shouldnt be able to find employment again but, I wonder how quickly they'd be taken in by "normal" employers if he was just a regular Joe like us and convicted of the same crimes.

There are many potential replacements that would take far less money than Vick for a chance at the NFL, without all the baggage Vick (and all the other trash) brings with him. Would that be too boring? A great player who isnt a risk to the team off the field? Its drama I can do without and from the reaction of many here, I'm not alone.

amth wrote:

You got a great point there. Little was only suspended for 8 games after his conviction. More recently, Donte' Stallworth, of the New Orleans Saints, will have to sit out the entire 2009 NFL season after he was convicted of DUI manslaughter in Miami earlier in 2009. His blood-alcohol level was .126 and he claimed to the police that he was flashing his lights to warn the victim before striking and killing him. Here is a quote from a website about what Stallworth had to say. Below is his "official statement"

Commissioner Goodell called me this morning. Obviously, I am disappointed, but, as I said previously, I accept the Commissioner's decision. Regardless of the length of my suspension, I will carry the burden of Mr. Reyes' death for the rest of my life. I urge NFL fans not to judge NFL players or me based on my tragic lapse in judgment. I am a good person who did a bad thing. I will use the period of my suspension to reflect, fulfill my obligations, and use this experience to make a positive impact on the lives of those who look up to NFL players.

But according to the website profootballtalk.com, Stallworth was less diplomatic when it came to his Twitter account. Profootballtalk reported that Stallworth posted the following to his Twitter account and then promptly deleted it: "TO ALL MY FAM IN THE LEAGUE: GOD BLESS YALL, STAY HEALTHY, GOOD LUCK THIS SEASON!!! I'M WATCHIN EVERY F--KIN GAME."

This just all goes to show that if you got enough money, fame or even a little power you can get away with almost anything with very little repercussions. Just my 2 cents.

While I agree this thread is about Vick, just like almost all the other NFL players, eventually after being booed at and ridiculed for awhile their offense fades away into history and is remembered by a few who can't let the past stay in the past.

Michael Vick should be banned for life, along with the other convicted felons in the NFL. Plain and simple. I thought the same thing about Ray Lewis when he was in trouble with the law and the same thing about Stallworth. Professional sports is a privilege and is it asking too much not to commit a felony? Maybe it is for the NFL.

There is no 'appropriate' amount of remorse for what Michael Vick participated in. If he truly felt as bad as he should, he wouldn't be giving press conferences, because he'd be spending all his time vomiting from guilt.

Drunk drivers can be rehabilitated. So can gang-banging murders, in some cases. Animal (and c*hild) torturers, on the other hand...I don't know. That's pretty deeply disturbed. You don't 'snap out' of that.

That there will be stadiums of people cheering Vick (and I'm afraid there will be) is nauseating.

I am much more willing to forgive stupidity (Stallworth) than evil.

There is also a second side to this --the gambling.

US sports have always had a low tolerance for athletes participation in illegal gambling. Look at the Pete Rose case. I'm very surprised that the NFL has chosen to look the other way on this and let him play again.

I think he got in more trouble, legally, from gambling over state lines than the whole dog torturing thing. And I am surprised the NFL doesn't seem to mind the black market gambling thing from Vick. That leads to situations like points shaving in basketball, or throwing games like that ref allegedly did.

The mob doesn't have it's hands into dog fighting therefore, losing money on dog fights isn't going to make you throw a football game.

The NFL commissioner says Vick can play & at least 3 teams made offers to him. That says Vick does get a 2nd chance regardless of what any of you think. Vick lost all that endorsement money and will never get a major endorsement contract again. That's worth much more than what he was making as a player.

Worse things happen to dogs in other countries all over the world and yet nobody is calling for boycotts on their businesses or governments.

Deity wrote:

Well...yeah. That was pretty much a foregone conclusion when you started the thread, wasn't it? We all knew somebody would think Vick could help them win...and I don't think the NFL would have bothered to reinstate him if they knew none of the owners would touch him. I assumed you wanted to gather opinions on the subject?

Deity wrote:

I'm not sure there is a 'worse' than what some of those animals were put through. Sure, there are some cultures that use dogs for food, but that is a far cry from torturing them for kicks and giggles. (Although I'll admit it probably doesn't make a big difference to the dogs.)

If there was a government or major corporation that officially endorsed such atrocities, I'd like to think there would be talks of boycotts and embargoes.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. Please don't smite me!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_fighting

it's absolutely disgusting to me the way people are acting as if he was a serial killer. to me he shouldn't even have gone to prison for as long as he did.