the mass RS File deletion is not just happening here :(

it's happening everywhere allot of RS files at *deleted were deleted
and some think that some group of peoples are doing this from the industry
and some think a script is being used to harvest the RS urls in order
to turn them in to RS to get the files deleted for good

*Linking to other forums is not allowed - Esteban

I've just replied to the RS question in the VIP thread, which many of you can't see of course. But I have some theories about these mass deletions, one of which involves big collections and high download rates. For RS this means someone taking up a lot of storage space and getting enough points to keep free membership - which earns them nothing!

I'd be interested to know what sort of collections have been deleted elsewhere. Are they the major posters in these other places? If so this fits my theory. pm if necessary.

Albi

Same shit going on with other filehosters(MU deleted 400 MBs of my files today,but I dont care..if it makes them happy. ).

fantailedalbi wrote:


Not sure what you suggest quite follows...

I had an email from RS (I have a Premium account) and they are now deleting ANY file that hasn't been downloaded for 3 months, even for Premium users. So popular files that have high downloads are safe.

I suspect that the mass deletions have more to do with owners complaining about files of their material. They obviously have found some way of quickly finding links and killing them.

While it's impossible at an open forum like forumophilia to hide links entirely, you can make things difficult to track by not just uploading a file to RS with the original zip download name. If you simply rename files before you upload, it makes them much harder to search for. Same with renaming jpegs before you upload them to imagevenue or the like. It isn't ever going to be foolproof, but you can't search for a file with an 'anonymous' name like, say, '004' - you'd get far too many hits to make it viable.

cassandrova wrote:
Some followup data points: I have a lot of files up on RapidShare, and the ones that were deleted recently were all in specific threads here -- and they were NOT the ones that were generating the most downloads (in fact, some of them were generating a pathetically small number of download compared to my more popular threads). All of my deleted files were, however, from threads involving large, active sites. All of my archives from dead or smaller sites are still intact -- and my files from the same sites that had never been posted here were _not_ deleted.

This tells me that RapidShare isn't doing its own search-and-destroy. The problem is that we have one (or several) moles on this board, searching for links to files from sites they protect and reporting them.

Also, RapidShare isn't the only place being hit. Over in the Teenfuns picture thread, the recent RapidShare links have been surviving substantially longer than the Megarotic ones. Go figure. There, it's very hit and miss, though -- there's none of the widespread complete deletion, but lots of files missing in the middle. I'm not quite sure what's causing that.

My own conclusion is that RapidShare is probably more reliable than Megarotic/Megaupload in general, but may have a substantially faster takedown process upon complaint -- and we've got someone with access to the board scanning threads for things to complain about.

I'm still looking for evidence that obscure filenames or other "hiding" systems do anything at all, though -- I've been watching a set of equivalent files with the same content, one of which has a really explicit, long, obvious name for data I've seen deleted previously, and the other doesn't, and so far, both have been up for a few months without either one being noticed. I do know that the so called link-hiding intermediary sites are completely worthless, though -- you can pull out the original and so-called "hidden" RapidShare link from them simply by opening the file properties while you download the file from the protection site, among other techniques.

Anyone who reports links for a living or even a hobby will certainly know how to find them there.

One thing that may help the links live longer is to choose a suitably obscure *thread name* here on Forumophilia, and don't use the name directly in the post. The downside, of course, is that it becomes impossible to find what you posted later by searching.

What wraith says makes a lot of sense.

I too have files from really 'vigilant' sites (you know the ones that I'm talking about ) that have been up for months and have generated thousands of downloads... but they're still active and have never been detected. But there are files I upped a week ago that have only a handful of downloads and those have been killed. The quantity of downloads has no relationship to the speed with which files are removed from filesharers such as RS.

I also tried a little experiment: uploading the same file twice and posting one at forumophilia and one at another forum. The forumophilia file lasted less than 24 hours; the one at the other forum is still live.

The only conspiracy here is that there are obviously moles and spies that are reporting the links. And obviously there is very little you can do about that, short of trying to ferret out the moles and banning them. But then they'd just rejoin under another name.

Cass,thats what I think too.I know two other places with the same problem.Maybe we really should search for a new way to share.BTW,no luck yet with that usenet thing.
I'm just not sure why.I mean,files are shared since I'm here,some were deleted and it was okay.But now?I'm not sure if some siteowners are just bitching or maybe a lonley guy with no hobbies?

Website owners have their own forums where they discuss business and ideas. You should look into those if you want to find out who is reporting your links. Believe me, those site owners browse the porn forums and read what you say. It's not the copyright owners who are reporting your links, it's people who run adult blog sites & free hosted galleries.

Thank's God that you noticed this serious problem(atack on our fundamental rights for TEEN-PORN)!!!

My files from Netvideogirls (NVG) presenting Violet aka Felony were only clips about 1 minute and still the idiots deleted it!

My theory was that there is one or more fanatical anti-porn "terorists" who are just enjoying to destroy the others right to watch on tne net (4free) porn. Only problem is that they got to be realy a lot if they are deleting posts from other sites as well!

@ wraith:

I know it's true what you said about getting the rs-link out of a however hidden link. My only intention is to make it a bit harder for the link-collectors. I use the stealth.to for a few days and the links are still alive, let's see what the new week brings.
It's a bit hard for downloaders too, it even fucks me up to type in the captchas just for testing, but if you want a video, you'll do it and if you just want the link to report it, this can get very annoying, at least i hope so.
But yaeh, if there are some fanatic anti-porno-guys or -girls, we have no chance to prevent them from fullfilling their heavenly mission to make the world a "better" place.
It has been said here that we should use some restriction to view the links as we know from some other forums (you need xxx posts/karmas to view). I don't think that will work for an open forum, cause if there are two of them rats they will give each other the number of karmas they need to view and then it's over again.
But what we should do is to put on a delete-button in the edit-post function to clean the threads from killed links. This will still look crappy because of the other posts in between, but what should i do with a thread with 18 pages of "sorry deleted"? Maybe open a new one, let's see.

How about simply posting the RS "number" and filename of a download?

You know, all RS links are of the form:

dead link

If one simply posts the ######## and filename.ext (and the filename isn't a dead giveaway), then link harvesters will have more work to do by removing the telltale "rapidshare.com". Granted, DLers will have to type them in instead of clicking, but that's a small price to pay.

In fact, since all decent posts have screens/sample images anyway, an even much more difficult to crack solution is to simply put the above information in the images themselves (essentially turning link harvesting into a captcha type problem of having to load and read images by eye, or requiring significant processing power expended for each link to automate).

Something to consider. -nib

Someone should send a virus to his/hers computer. Next time she/he turns the computer ON a message will appear:

"THIS COMPUTER IS FORBIDEN TO USE - COMPLAINTS RECIVED!"

I WOULD LIKE THEN TO SEE HERS/HIS FACE!

Couldn't we trace somehow the idiots? We don't have access to RS traceing but if the mods would trace who the last clicked the link before the next person recived the stupiud message that is deleted because of complaints.

nibpar wrote:

Good point nibpar. This prevents direct linking and makes it more difficult to scan threads automatically.

Here'sMyLink

Not hard to do.

Some cnut on here is too tight to have an RS account and is simply reporting every link he's coming across.. or he thinks it's a game! If I find out WhoTF it is I'll ruin them, the narrow minded twat!!