the mass RS File deletion is not just happening here :(

Hey bud, try reading before you give your 2 cents. The copyright owners aren't the ones reporting the links.

Deity wrote:

I can read, and I thought that point was adequately covered in my comments about why RS has to pull the links without checking whether the complainant has any rights in the material.

Realistically, they're right to assume that everything on their servers is pirated, so why even bother to check the ID of the complainant? It's irrelevant, they're just covering their asses by pulling everything which attracts a complaint. To do anything else is a lose-lose scenario for RS, they either go out of business through the cost of properly investigating complaints, or they go out of business when a legitimate complaint is ignored and the copyright holder sues them.

How many files on sharing servers are there with the explicit consent of the copyright holder? 0.001%?

Furthermore, it's in line one of the RS terms of service

"No files with illegal contents, for example pornography...and/or unauthorized copies of copyrighted material."

so anybody uploading such stuff is immediately in breach of the TOS and RS can delete it without any third party complaining and regardless of any economic interest such a third party may or may not have, and the uploader has no recourse. Getting excited about exactly who is causing the files to be removed is a red herring; it's not a mole, or an anti-porn crusader, or the pay site owner, or RS trying to cut bandwidth, or a TGP operator missing out on clickthroughs. The reason the material is being removed is that it shouldn't have been there in the first place, no more and no less. If you upload to a server in breach of the server's TOS, you're taking a gamble. If you want a file to remain available, buy your own server, your own backbone connection and your own lawyers to defend your rights in the material and your right to publish it.

Deity wrote:

do you have any evidence to support this?

it would seem the copyright owners have far more resources & motivation to report links than some blog owners.

also, shouldn't rapidshare be well within it's rights to request proof from the reporting party that they are indeed the copyright holder of the material they are reporting?

dfkjh wrote:
They have to delete it as soon as they get a message.Otherwise they would push the service into a illegal direction.

I read the conversations between them from other forums. I know what they are doing. And no, Rapidshare doesn't ask for any proof of copyright ownership, they just delete it. RS doesn't allow porn regardless. If the copyright owners have a problem, they know they can PM us or post and we will add their sites to the restricted list if some proof is offered.

hey alot of rs links are dead after being reported. how about making it harder for the reporters? what if the posters start putting the rs links in a text file and share that text file on rs? more job for everyone but it will need more effort of the reporters and maybe they will go tired. + Add the ur in tinyurl to hide the real url from search engines too.

Was posted as a single topic but I thought it should be merged in this topic.

svinto

I would like to add 2 more thoughts on how to handle the problem:

1. What is the main problem of uploads being deleted? Right, uploading takes a long time and costs a lot of bandwidth. Consequently, it would be good if the uploader had 1 SECRET LOCATION with all their files, where they are safe and the links are never made public. Then the files are mirrored by remote upload to another site and only the NEW MIRRORED LINKS are made public. If deleted, the can be quickly re-mirrored to a different site. Many share-hosters allow remote upload, that's not a problem. However the secret main location might be a problem. Maybe a fast FTP-server would be a good solution. It doesn't produce much traffic, since files are only ever transferred if deleted from the public locations.

2. If Rapidshare (and other hosters as well) delete files when receiving a complaint without checking anything, one could try a very nasty thing: Everybody in the forum reports every rapidshare link (esspecially highly legal links ) they can find as illegal to rapidshare. Even better: write a little script the searches google all day for rapidshare links and report them all
Thus, rapidshare must either delete all their files that can be found via google (and that must be a lot i guess) or they have to check the complaints much more in-depth. I admit, this is a kind of self-destructive measure, but it might still be funny.

c-ya
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Too many clips are deleted.
Don't upload your clips with their original filename.
It's easy for anyone to find and report them (for copyright reasons).
Rename your files, before upload.

i guess some members and certainly big posters are snitching and report links all the link of my thread have been reported & deleted in 24 h !!!!
https://www.forumophilia.com/topic38395.html

If anyone else starts another thread on this same subject, I will merge it here. No sense in me repeating myself all over the board.

I don't deal in cents (some foreign rubbish currency ) just pennies, so here's my two pence worth (tuppence in old money) at the moment.

Reporting to RS and asking for file deletions doesn't take much to do. Give them a link and a reason and they'll do it. As some of you know I'm a supporter of Melissa Ashley and fairly protective about her site (her income) and site rips. When I've seen postings of her site stuff in other places I have asked for her copyright material to be removed and they've done it without question (not here I hasten to add, although I feel tempted to do so when I've come across some postings. Thankfully there is a general consensus here that any of her site material should be at least a year old to be shared which is fair I think).

The targets amongst our members seem to be those who offer several (or many) videos from one particular site/producer. Anyone looking for stuff from a particular source just has to search for model names etc. If they find the odd one or two videos in someones thread then they'll just ask for those particular links to be deleted. More than that, they'll probably ask for the complete archive to be deleted which has happened to some.

'Hiding' files is quite easy to do. I've recently come across several videos of models I'm interested in this forum by chance. I regularly search by names but when I go browsing I sometimes recognise the models who have been posted without names attached. It doesn't help for anyone searching for a particular model but it's good way of not advertising who she is to anyone doing a search.

Overall I don't know what the best answer is to allow us to find what we're looking for in the way of models or sites without making it obvious to any outsiders searching here.

Been away from threads like this for a while..

The RS-Text-file idea..I think it makes it even easier from them.Get the textfile and report.They have too much time.
I'm just testing if they report stuff from dead sites too.
Anonym.to works fine for me.You guys should try it out.Fast,free,a bit safe.

This is why so many posts are being deleted on so many boards. Just came across it by accident.

http://www.apaai.com/

maybe it would be better if it was impossible to search for the content of forums like this on google.
then they would have a harder time finding the stuff they want to delete.
i don`t even know if its possible to hide things from googlesearch.

Most people found this forum through Google. No need to go into hiding.