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elgrande
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 16, 2010 10:18 pm
Hey all. I think some explanation is needed here.

Although it seems that RS turns its back to all its members by deleting the premium point system its not the way it seems. RS is located in Switzerland. In Switzerland it is legal to download files - even if they are copyrighted. But it is illegal to UPLOAD copyrighted files and - and this is the point - it is illegal to GAIN MONEY with uploaded files that are copyrighted or to INDUCE to upload copyrighted files. RS had no OTHER choice than to delete their bonus point system. They try hard to fight against the copyrights, and even won a lawsuit this year stating that they are not responsible for the content of their clients uploads. But at the same time they mustn't gain money with copyrighted files...dilemma. They are now allowed to carry on as a webspace provider only. Thats the reason behind the changes.

RS is the main hoster on this forum and actually made it big. PLEASE DO NOT BAN RS!!!
Di-Natali
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jul 16, 2010 10:34 pm
I'm going to play a game, anything that moves, goes down.
That's a lot easier to understand. Very Happy
Loui375
VIP club member
Added: Jul 17, 2010 12:24 am
And it looks like oron is a "dead end" hoster: no option for direct downloads, there's always a html-page in between, the dl-link is valid 2 hours and only created for your IP, so you can't remote upload from oron to other hosters (at least i couldn't).
hefestus
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jul 17, 2010 12:32 am
svinto wrote:
Di-Natali wrote:
Storage, will cost you a fortune.


I might have missed something but I have 116 GB uploaded.
And no problem to upload more.
Well over the 10GB quoted as included.
With the latest change I'm charged 99 Rapids every 30 days for the storage. I get on average 1 GB/day to download.
But it means I can download 30 GB in one day.
If I then want to download more it will cost. 14 Rapids for 5 GB traffic addition.
This is with the deactivation of keep files for ever.
No downloads in 60 days and the file will be deleted.
Actually I'm not sure how it works.
I have files uploaded that I haven't posted the links for and they are more than 60 days old.
If I don't use more than the 30 GB download traffic/30 days my accumulated Rapids will keep the account alive for more than three years.

The cost to keep the account by buying more Rapids is €1.25/month or approx $1.60/month when covering for 4 months (400 Rapids €4.99).
Lower if you go for longer periods of extension.


Laughing

Have you rapid fanatics look around recently?

For a quite long time there is no quality (new) porn on RS posted on any major board or blog. Only here by few posters and mostly by week or two delay. Personalty I didn't download more than 50+ files in whole year from here, because I already got them somewhere else. Thanx 2 DaleC good presentation and my bad memory Smile

RS was fine, I have premium since they open (.de +.com). But ... no big use in last six months even year. Well, I guess u guys watch some movies 2, music, software. ebooks ... all declining on RS. And soon there will be very few files on RS. That's reality. Our RS a/c wont even worth $1.60/month. Btw for 3$/a month you can get Letitbit a/c and have TB of new and old porn at same speed as RS, but unfortunately few 2 <0 movies, music, softw ... So HF and MU is best choice I guess for other non porn stuff.

Banning RS is funny decision, because RS banned himself, some just don't get that. Is not about what they do, or this funny morality issue (paying hosts Laughing) it's simple as; no one will pay in the future for RS a/c if there only few files 2 download. I guess u understand that's global (global uploaders).

Well, management is still inventing the wheel. Wish them luck buy narrowing choice to JUST 2 host. (Laughing)
phwishpow
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 17, 2010 1:30 am
I find it curious that this happened so soon after FOP stopped accepting advertising sponsorship (remember l1ttle capr1ce in the upper corner?). I suspect this had nothing to do with the mods or admin, but with the Good Samaritan paying for much of the bandwidth. We may never know what really happened, but the new RS rules are not that bad after their adjustment. But, no forum sponsorship money = no forum. I, too, would love to know where to go next. We are not going to change, just find a new home. It's too bad that that discussion cannot be had here. Hope to find you all again.
OhioRedneck
Good Poster
Added: Jul 17, 2010 2:07 am
Loui375 wrote:
And it looks like oron is a "dead end" hoster: no option for direct downloads, there's always a html-page in between, the dl-link is valid 2 hours and only created for your IP, so you can't remote upload from oron to other hosters (at least i couldn't).


That's sad to hear Loui. I use Megaupload, but I wasn't loving it. It's not the best, but from what you posted it seems to be a better alternative than Oron, if you could call it that.

I'm going to go ahead and try it out to see if it's as bad as you say. I suspect that is it.
danielitto
Poster
Added: Jul 17, 2010 3:32 am
I never asked to remove rapidshare only asked alternative

Please rapidshare returns
work77009
Poster
Added: Jul 17, 2010 4:28 am
I don't want to add more gas into the fire........but there is already a thread packed with fu*king hack of movies that hosted on oron. I don't believe there is enough time for him/her to up all that huge list of movies since announcement was made...what? early today late yesterday? and that member was just registered today. I think is all under table deal........someone knew. Oh well. it sux. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad


Edit: nvm it got deleted Question Idea but I haven't start drinking yet? I know what I saw. Wink Mad Confused

Edit2: that thread is back......funny is like watching soap right now. he asked not to be deleted and has permission LOL. anyway not my problem. signing off right now I got better things to do tonight......let them duke it out.
polacrilex67
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 17, 2010 5:26 am
Oron is horrible for downloaders. You get 120000 GBits (which is 9.37GB) for a 3 day period. Once you use it your option "is to buy an additional account." The downloads are SLOW and inconsistent. Once people try it they will hate it if they have used RS.

Instead of banning/limiting hosts the mods should allow the uploader to chose which ones they want to use. The best one will win out because posters will use the one with the best rewards which will force frequent downloaders to buy premium accounts for those hosts. This is why I adopted RS and I am sure most people here did for the same reason.

The model the mods are using is essentially a command economy, and like all command economies (i.e. the USSR) they eventually fail. Capitalism may be evil but it works. Think on it... Twisted Evil
vectra
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 17, 2010 7:18 am
I've been a member here for six years. I would pay if GS charged...no doubt. This is the best site on the internet for porn. But banning RS and replacing it with Oron? Really? REALLY? Horrible decision.
dutchy
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 17, 2010 7:51 am
RS banned? WTF?!

Why on earth would you want to decide what upload host contributers are allowed to use, simply because you find they dislike the new RS policy?
Acting like **** who didnt get their way?

Yes.. Im pissed.

The two alternatives are anything but good alternatives. Oron is totally inadequate and Megaupload ?! Please.... it never was or will be a serious alternative for RS.

If been around here for some time, and not the worst member you could have. Making honest replies and all.
But If this dumb policy keeps in effect, Ill be off.

--> Seems I (sadly) will be in need for another good porn forum...
Any suggestions in a PM are welcomed.
RedFang
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 17, 2010 8:40 am
work77009 wrote:
I don't want to add more gas into the fire........but there is already a thread packed with fu*king hack of movies that hosted on oron. I don't believe there is enough time for him/her to up all that huge list of movies since announcement was made...what? early today late yesterday? and that member was just registered today. I think is all under table deal........someone knew. Oh well. it sux. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad


Yeah, very strange indeed. That's some guy who first registered in FO in 2004 who makes his first post at 01:00 today (my local time) and after 7 hours of continuous posting there are 130 movies available all on oron. And it looks like he's not finished yet.

These movies vary from about 200mb to 2gb.

What I don't think has been mentioned before is that Oron allows free users only 100mb per hour (or every 45 minutes if you register). They are strict with this. I know. I've tried it.

By my calculation, at a conservative average of 3 movies per gigabyte. it would take a registered free user over 12 days of continuously 24-hour monitored downloading to get them all. Absurd.

At least most of these vids must have been uploaded prior to the announcement. The question is why are they suddenly here now?
sarkilar
Good Poster
Added: Jul 17, 2010 9:37 am
RedFang wrote:
The question is why are they suddenly here now?


This question's answer MAYBE;
you should copy-and-paste one of the oron file on google and press the search button Wink
RedFang
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 17, 2010 10:04 am
sarkilar wrote:
RedFang wrote:
The question is why are they suddenly here now?

This question's answer MAYBE;
you should copy-and-paste one of the oron file on google and press the search button Wink

sarkilar, thanks for the suggestion. Those same links have been posted on multiple boards so unless this is cross-posting it looks like I was wrong.

I even found some boards I didn't know existed.

Update: the new posts have effectively been killed now as an unapproved picture hoster was used and the previews have now been wiped out. 8 hours posting for nothing. He will be pleased.
Couples
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 17, 2010 2:52 pm
These recent changes here at FP are just another nail in the coffin and will make this once great forum a deserted place - it will die. But not before the "owner" has made enough $$$ off of it...

Oron is *by far* the weakest file host out there, dl limits, no direct dl's, utterly crappy dl speed etc. etc. etc. - how much did GS actually GET from them for this "decision"?

Fortunately the very structure of the internet allows us to use alternatives. And who thought that sharing eBooks, music, whole DVDs and pr0n would go on forever anyway?

Bye bye everybody! See you on another board...