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spigly
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Added: Jun 25, 2010 4:56 pm
petram wrote:
spigly wrote:


Well I think that's it then. They have finally lost it. I mean who comes up with this kind of stuff. All the other host services must be shitting them selfs laughing if they read this stuff. That's just crazy. Rapids Laughing

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I read it twice , butt i can't see i can generate new "rapids" while someone is d/l my file/s Confused
Did i miss something
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Does it mean, after changing my "old" free- plus premium-rapidpoints that's it Question I have to pay ? Shocked


And the more stuff you have uploaded the more you have to pay. If I understood it correctly.
Loui375
VIP club member
Added: Jun 25, 2010 11:11 pm
RS wrote:
"In this way, we hope to offer our customers an even better service ..."

Laughing Laughing

I guess you are right, no "Rapids" for you if someone downloads your files, and this would fit to their previous announcements that giving the uploaders any benefit means encouraging them to upload porn...

And i guess i was right too: they must be either drunk or stoned in this RS office. How can you spread such news where half of the details are not clear?
Obviously they already know what "secured storage" means or what a "LicenceManager" is or what is meant by "selling files", and does "traffic" mean the amount that you may download or is it the amount of downloads that users generate when downloading your files?
That all would be interesting to know, but they will tell us in three days at the soonest ... such a strategy mostly is used when they already know that things are getting worse.

According to this new model, uploaders with big or bigger accounts have to pay the most "Rapids", it might be interesting for some users who are willing to download a few files from now and then, but i doubt there will be much to download in the next few months.
It looks more to me that RS wants to keep a few big uploaders for the next months until their "Rapids" are used and then they maybe close down the whole thing.

If i knew an easy way how to remote my files to MU i would be gone already Evil or Very Mad
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userL301
Respected Poster
Added: Jun 26, 2010 3:07 am
IMO it's quite clear Razz This is the RS-way of telling us to piss off!


Customers are uploder -> i.e. content-owner! who pay RS
Customers are downloader, who pay RS

There is a new curreny called Rapids.

Files are stored for 60 days. If there are less than 10GB in an active account, the files are stored forever. You can use a package with a larger limit for storing inactive files.

Every day you can download 1GB or chose another package. You can not anymore sum up unused traffic - it's gone when the day is over.


Now the interesting stuff:
Uploader can verify their acount (RS will not block their files once they prove that they are the content-owner)

With the licence manager you will probably be able to earn Rapids: "give me 100 Rapids and you get a valid personal download-link" -> links somewhat like this dead link



This way RS becomes a file-hoster with it's own payment system. They are not a share-hoster anymore.

RS is now a legal business. Arrow http://tainment.rapidshare.com/




Example:
Downloader buys Rapids.
Content-owner uploads a movie,
Downloader pays some Rapids for the link of the Movie to owner and some Rapids for RS to use the link.
Everyone is paying Idea win-win situation for RS.




It's always been an 'excuse' for downloaders, that downloading something 'for free' is easier than getting an account in a every online store and pya some cents for the latest mp3. Now all you need is some Rapids. Some clicks and you can legally download what you bought.



RS is now big friends with the content-owners.
Read the older news in this way: RS is not responsable for these bad people, who abuse their infrastrucure to upload and share files. RS does not want to encourage these bad people to abuse their service for illegal stuff.


RS changed their mind: everyone who used RS.de/RS.com in the past is now a bad-ass. They will not go back.

Not sure, if MU is the solution: they disallow porn in general (because they have MR.) No need to report a copyright-violation, just tell them it's pr0n.







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So which hoster will be the replacement for RS? Is there any real replacement or just many wannabe?

For sure it's no hoster located in the US or EU - they won't be able to fight against the movie-industry
What's left?
Shocked
Loui375
VIP club member
Added: Jun 26, 2010 3:36 am
That all sounds very reasonable, userL301.
Maybe it was my fault to think that they acted rashly, but even if it is a well planned new business model for the future of RS, it's getting more and more useless for out "purposes" here, forumophilia is not a poetry club.

You might be right about MU, guess at the moment i'm just a bit nervous cause i don't know what will happen to my already uploaded files in the next days.
And like some others i still have no plan where to host / how to host in the future
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abaris
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Added: Jun 26, 2010 7:36 pm
Loui375 wrote:

You might be right about MU, guess at the moment i'm just a bit nervous cause i don't know what will happen to my already uploaded files in the next days.
And like some others i still have no plan where to host / how to host in the future


I'm going with MU, since I already have an account there. And I already cleaned out my RS account. I will use up whatever points they're forking out at RS and then its good bye sunshines.
userL301
Respected Poster
Added: Jun 26, 2010 10:26 pm
LOL - i guess this thread can be closed now ->
This should answer any upcoming question on how RS is adjusting our needs Twisted Evil

RapidShare wrote:
Under the following link you find specific information on how RapidShare is going to adjust to your individual needs:
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RapidShare wishes you a sunny and beautiful weekend.

Thank you very much RS!
Laughing

RS always made some "improvements" (for RS), they know that they can go far - let's see how far they get with this.

RS is one of the most reliable hoster and IMO they will stay on top for a while (until existing accounts expire). Depends on how agressive they wil force their new business. Does this RS-Player make them already a kind of streaming-site?
niterider69
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 26, 2010 11:53 pm
With all this new shit they are doing I am downloading all my rar's so I can re-up them someplace else if need be, I only have 302 anyway but some are hard to find and I don't want to risk losing them, my premium acct is good until Aug. if they don't change that too. Shocked
userL301
Respected Poster
Added: Jun 27, 2010 12:11 am
niterider69 wrote:
, my premium acct is good until Aug. if they don't change that too. Shocked

actually they do Wink
With the smallest package you get five months for one, with RapidMedium you get something comparable to the current accounts (you cannot safe unused traffic).
If you have less than 10GB (or 50GB ...) then the 60-days-without-download-rule doesn't apply (i.e. the files are not deleted on inactivity) as long as the premium- ...ehm platinum- status lasts
hoorah
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 27, 2010 1:16 am
Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but it seems like you all are very knowledgable about nearly every facet of RS.

As far as myself, the ONLY reason I pay for a RS premium account is so I can queue up a ton of downloads in a DL manager. I never upload anything, and have never taken the time to understand the intricate details of RS. Basically, I just paid a certain amount of money every month, and essentially was able to download as much cool stuff as I wanted.

I just renewed my account for 6 months. I did so last week.

I'm not sure how this change will impact me. I have 6000 free Rapidpoints and 0 premium rapidpoints.

Did I just throw my money away on the 6 month renew?

Thanks for any thoughts - much appreciated.
userL301
Respected Poster
Added: Jun 27, 2010 1:47 am
Quote:
For each remaining day, the user will be credited with 20 Rapids
This meeans You'll automatically get 3600 Rapids for six months.

From then you'll have 1GB download-traffic per day for 4 Rapids/day (makes 2 1/2 years)
Or you get 5 GB per day for 20 Rapids per day (six months)
Or ...
You can swith between the packages as you like or need. In few days we'll know how this works exactly. (automatically or manually switching ...)

Main disadvantage is that you can't "collect" unused traffic - it's a maximum per day-setting.


If you don't download very much, this is probably even good news for you, but who knows if in some months anyone still uses (uploads to) RS?


FreePoints are gone, you can only convert minimum 5000 FP AND 5000 PP into more Rapids.
hoorah
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 27, 2010 3:57 am
Thank you very much for the clarification.

I wonder if once my days are converted to "rapids", if I'm limited to a "max" per day.

Thing is, I tend to go on "downloading sprees". I might not download anything for weeks, and then I'll spend a while downloading like crazy (all depends on what else is going on in my life) - there are times when I can easily go over 5GB a day.

I guess being limited to 5GB a day wouldn't be the worst thing in the world - I'd probably be pickier about what I do end up downloading.
abaris
Poster
Added: Jun 27, 2010 7:16 am
[quote="userL301"]Quote:

FreePoints are gone, you can only convert minimum 5000 FP AND 5000 PP into more Rapids.


Yeah, great. I converted my Premium to free in order to get a few additional months. Didn't work, and this nice mail I got afterwards, explained why. So, I did throw my money away because they locked the account settings before sending out their mails.
Monkey D. Ruffy
Very Respected VIP club member
Added: Jun 27, 2010 8:23 am
abaris wrote:

Yeah, great. I converted my Premium to free in order to get a few additional months. Didn't work, and this nice mail I got afterwards, explained why. So, I did throw my money away because they locked the account settings before sending out their mails.


You still can convert premium into free points, but you have to deactivate the security lock (tried it).
Vise versa (free into premium) isn't possible.

Monkey D. Ruffy
abaris
Poster
Added: Jun 27, 2010 8:59 am
Monkey D. Ruffy wrote:

You still can convert premium into free points, but you have to deactivate the security lock (tried it).
Vise versa (free into premium) isn't possible.

Monkey D. Ruffy


Yes, converting was possible. And that's the issue, since I have thrown away my premium points in order to prolong my account. Which isn't possible anymore. So, my premium points are gone down the drain for sweet FA.
userL301
Respected Poster
Added: Jun 27, 2010 9:31 am
hoorah wrote:
I guess being limited to 5GB a day wouldn't be the worst thing in the world - I'd probably be pickier about what I do end up downloading.

Next week we'll see how this works.

Maybe its easiy to set it to 1GB for normal and switching to a higher package for one day when you need the traffic.


RS says it's possible - but not how convenient or easy it is, nor if it's done automatically ....
Just wait some days.




abaris wrote:
Yes, converting was possible. And that's the issue, since I have thrown away my premium points in order to prolong my account. Which isn't possible anymore. So, my premium points are gone down the drain for sweet FA.

Ask the support to undo the conversion. (They really want support-requests with this clear definitions of their rules -> thats EASY File-Hosting Evil or Very Mad )

Writing a mail from the addy in your account, with the information about the erroneously converted points should solve the problem. My guess is that it thakes time, because the support will be quite busy the following days ... Sad