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jbsa
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tzman wrote:
i respect those views, but i also disagree. it takes 1-2 seconds to determine if its a phishing or scam post if you know what you are looking for (thread title is weird, links point to banned sites, poster has less than 5 posts, etc. etc. etc.). i can say with 100% certainty that i have not reported a false positive yet. and i am willing to bet that the people who have been consistently using the report button can id a spam phishing post immediately
tzman wrote:
as for reporting just one post from a poster who has 5 posts total, i think that is fine, but of course many times its not reporting the same poster multiple times. its reporting multiple posters who each have 2 posts
tzman wrote:
this is why in my original post i said the wait time should only be eliminated for those with 300+ posts.
anyway, this isn't worth arguing as its just as easy (and in fact easier) for me to say i'll let someone else do the work and report posts instead of dealing with the delay. no worries
I have to disagree with you on this one, jbsa. Thirty seconds isn't that long if you're looking at a post carefully enough to make sure you aren't jumping the gun and accusing a valid poster.
i respect those views, but i also disagree. it takes 1-2 seconds to determine if its a phishing or scam post if you know what you are looking for (thread title is weird, links point to banned sites, poster has less than 5 posts, etc. etc. etc.). i can say with 100% certainty that i have not reported a false positive yet. and i am willing to bet that the people who have been consistently using the report button can id a spam phishing post immediately
tzman wrote:
Also, and mods, please set me straight if this assumption is wrong, but if JoeAssHole has 5 posts, reporting any one of them should do the trick. It alerts the mods to an attacker without excess content to deal with. If, however, multiple reports help, I will do that.
as for reporting just one post from a poster who has 5 posts total, i think that is fine, but of course many times its not reporting the same poster multiple times. its reporting multiple posters who each have 2 posts
tzman wrote:
Conversely, if JoeAssHole wanted to do just that (plug the reporting system) without the delay, he could click every post, hit report, and make it virtually impossible for the mods to separate the wheat from the chaff making his crap a LOT harder to deal with.
this is why in my original post i said the wait time should only be eliminated for those with 300+ posts.
anyway, this isn't worth arguing as its just as easy (and in fact easier) for me to say i'll let someone else do the work and report posts instead of dealing with the delay. no worries
AKAbob
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jbsa
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AKAbob wrote:
this discussion is going nowhere. we can agree to disagree. like i already said, i am washing my hands of it and letting others deal with the spam phishing posts
jbsa wrote:
i respect those views, but i also disagree. it takes 1-2 seconds to determine if its a phishing or scam post if you know what you are looking for (thread title is weird, links point to banned sites, poster has less than 5 posts, etc. etc. etc.). i can say with 100% certainty that i have not reported a false positive yet. and i am willing to bet that the people who have been consistently using the report button can id a spam phishing post immediately
I know spam the moment I step into a post. More often than not it looks and smells like spam before I enter.
As for phishing attempts, I spot suspicious threads immediately, but i still have to take the rapidshare ride to the phishing attempt before I call a spade a spade. I don't look at every one of a usernames threads, but I report the one I do see.
I think all their threads should all be deleted, phishing or not. If there is any doubt about the threads, the moderators have a place to move the treads and sort them out before deleting them.
jbsa wrote:
I once banned one username while it was in the middle of creating it's second thread. I already saw it's first post. The forum allowed moderators to tell what a member was doing right that moment. In this usermanes case, it was creating a thread virtually identical to the first. I could tell by the thread title even though the second thread had yet to be posted. The user was spamming, point blank. Rule breakers who have the potential of becoming good forum members deserve the opportunity to rehabilitate themselves, but spammers (and phishers) need to be shown the door as soon as possible.
Each poster deserves the same, equal consideration, regardless of the circumstances of those posting around them. Some of the posters may be violating the rules by making multiple posts, but they may not be phishing. They may only be violating less stringent forums rules at the wrong time.
It doesn't take that long to check, but it does take more than a couple of seconds to make that check. It isn't a reportable phishing attempt until you get to the phishing page. Mandating a 30 second break between reporting posts isn't unrealistic.
i respect those views, but i also disagree. it takes 1-2 seconds to determine if its a phishing or scam post if you know what you are looking for (thread title is weird, links point to banned sites, poster has less than 5 posts, etc. etc. etc.). i can say with 100% certainty that i have not reported a false positive yet. and i am willing to bet that the people who have been consistently using the report button can id a spam phishing post immediately
I know spam the moment I step into a post. More often than not it looks and smells like spam before I enter.
As for phishing attempts, I spot suspicious threads immediately, but i still have to take the rapidshare ride to the phishing attempt before I call a spade a spade. I don't look at every one of a usernames threads, but I report the one I do see.
I think all their threads should all be deleted, phishing or not. If there is any doubt about the threads, the moderators have a place to move the treads and sort them out before deleting them.
jbsa wrote:
as for reporting just one post from a poster who has 5 posts total, i think that is fine, but of course many times its not reporting the same poster multiple times. its reporting multiple posters who each have 2 posts
I once banned one username while it was in the middle of creating it's second thread. I already saw it's first post. The forum allowed moderators to tell what a member was doing right that moment. In this usermanes case, it was creating a thread virtually identical to the first. I could tell by the thread title even though the second thread had yet to be posted. The user was spamming, point blank. Rule breakers who have the potential of becoming good forum members deserve the opportunity to rehabilitate themselves, but spammers (and phishers) need to be shown the door as soon as possible.
Each poster deserves the same, equal consideration, regardless of the circumstances of those posting around them. Some of the posters may be violating the rules by making multiple posts, but they may not be phishing. They may only be violating less stringent forums rules at the wrong time.
It doesn't take that long to check, but it does take more than a couple of seconds to make that check. It isn't a reportable phishing attempt until you get to the phishing page. Mandating a 30 second break between reporting posts isn't unrealistic.
this discussion is going nowhere. we can agree to disagree. like i already said, i am washing my hands of it and letting others deal with the spam phishing posts
AKAbob
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jbsa wrote:
It made it to page three
jbsa wrote:
It's a free forum.
this discussion is going nowhere.
It made it to page three
jbsa wrote:
like i already said, i am washing my hands of it and letting others deal with the spam phishing posts
It's a free forum.
tzman
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AKAbob
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