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Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Jul 01, 2008 5:51 pm
I'm currently making about 15000 points a month and I only post here (I did post a little at another board about a month ago but I wasn't impressed by it so stopping logging on there). I had my RS account before the cap was introduced however and currently have about 117,000 mgbs uploaded. I'd be interested to hear if anyone opened an account since the cap was introduced has "maxed out" that account and is making 10,000 RS points a month from it.
Monkey D. Ruffy
Very Respected VIP club member
Added: Jul 01, 2008 6:02 pm
Shadowman wrote:
I'm currently making about 15000 points a month and I only post here (I did post a little at another board about a month ago but I wasn't impressed by it so stopping logging on there). I had my RS account before the cap was introduced however and currently have about 117,000 mgbs uploaded.


Wow, that's a hell lot of stuff Shocked

I'm only a novice compared to you (a little more than 20GB of uploads).

I think I'll have to upload much more.

Monkey D. Ruffy
xXxTrader
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 02, 2008 8:07 am
Well my account expired already and the notice says " Expired Accounts are deleted after 30 days"

So im guessing that if one cant obtain 10k points within the 30 days then your premium account is deleted the points that you now have are worthless.

If Its true then the points are basically stupid to get. I signed up for a month and got 8k points.
Its been almost 2 weeks i got about 300 points on my own.

I assume there are lots of ways to cheat the system like for example make a post on craiglist and pretend your a escort and post links to rapidshare with fake pics. The time involved tryna do this though im not sure would be worth all the trouble to get enough month to month .
I could be earning real money and more than what a subscription would cost per month.

If what some of you are saying is possible which is (convert the points starting a new account and get another 8k free i think it was?) another 2k points with about 15 hours of dedication spent in a day or so could get it easily.

If that method doesnt work and you cant get another 8k for free by converting the 10k into a new account then i assume a lot more hours would go into tryna earn points.

If id have to spend more than 10 hours even over a period of days it wouldnt be worth it, but still who wants to pay 11 bucks a month.

I had another theory and thought that this may work but I am not sure if hotlinking is allowed for points since they said "per unique click" or some shit right?

I see they have 10gb worth of usage and if i could set it to (traffic share download) and also use html (<img src=http:xxrapishare.com/xxxx.jpg) on one of my sites I know i would be able to use up that 10gb traffic in a matter of days and earn lots of points.
The only trouble is I have no way of knowing if this method works or not since i have already so much shit uploaded and some generating points and also if the user actually MUST click the link and go through the process of waiting out the timer then downloading in order to earn a point.

Any thoughts? Also for those of you who try to earn rs points how many hours do you spend in a month trying to earn them, im not so sure if its worth it especially I noticed that when I first got rapidshare yes i was downloading a lot but then after a few days I just stopped really because there are so many broken links and not enough sites that carry everything. BUT now they got this updated image of the enter verification code system and fuck for the life of me i cant get the code correct!! wtf!
xXxTrader
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 02, 2008 8:26 am
Actually u know when i think about it , it doesnt even matter a whole lot. I guess im just pissed cause they give me 8k points and thinking cool i can get another month for free so i can at least stretch my 11 bucks.

The points really are a scam when i think of it. Unless you spend hours uploading and unless you have a big audience to download then theres no way u can get 2k points every month.

That one guy who posted here is smart though. Getting a new account then earning 2k points and extending. Then when thats done he starts a new account pays another 11 bucks and earns 2k points. Which makes his monthly payment around 6 bucks. He saves about 20 bucks a year. Thats for someone who has the time to try and earn points though. I bet it takes 10 hours or more a month , x by 12 = 120 hours to save $20.

Fuck that in 120 hours i could make lots of money doing something else. So in the end is it worth tryna earn points period? If you dont have any type of job or income or lots of spare time then yah. If you dont have spare time and work a real job or work for youself its a waste of fukin time.
Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Jul 02, 2008 2:32 pm
With the deepest respect xXxTrader I think you're missing the point. The contributors here don't post with the primary interest of acquiring RS points. They do so to share what they have with the rest of the community. Getting free months subscriptions is nice but it isn't the major objective. It isn't likely (although not impossible) that anyone is going to get a premium account and make 10,000 points immediately. It took me about 4 months before I got my first free month (posting mostly picture sets) and about another 4 before I consistently collected 10,000 points a month. The more you post the more points you'll collect and if you're smart about what and how you post you can make that first free month a lot quicker than I did.

The bottom line is you can't make points if you don't contribute.
AKAbob
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 02, 2008 3:41 pm
Shadowman wrote:
The contributors here don't post with the primary interest of acquiring RS points. They do so to share what they have with the rest of the community.

The bottom line is you can't make points if you don't contribute.


That is exactly it. The guys who post would have done so anyway. The Rapidhare point system may have, in some way, directly or indirectly influence them to use Rapidshare over another host, but they would have been using a host to post anyway. It takes hours of time and effort to post. The time involved in compiling, uploading, and sharing media far exceeds any monthly fee to pay for premium if you are just uploading to get the service for free.

Although Rapidhare is the biggest, most widely used host, Rapidhare is just one of many hosts. People go premium for the download convenience, not the upload. If you spend a lot of time uploading your ass off in hopes of getting points rather than doing the sharing you would have done anyway, then you are a slave to Rapidshare.

Generally, the smaller the uploaded file, the less the effort. A point is a point. A file just over 1MB earns the same point as a 100MB file. If you are really just in it for the points, Take a 10MB file and break it up into 9 pieces. People will hate you, but you will still get far more points than posting the whole file in one upload.

Posts work the same the same way as points. You get the same post count if your post is "Thank you", or "Nice tits", that you would for dissertation regarding Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity. 10,000 is 10,000 in the same way that 300 is 300. They are both simply imposed quotas. A posted media contribution, reply in gratitude for a media contribution, engaging in meaningful dialog, or answering "spit" or 'swallow" on the appropriate thread all earn the same point. Post counts make no distinction if you media contributions are 1 per post, multiple posts in one day, or multiple contributions all in the same post. A post is a post, is a post, is a post, is a post.

When you stop and think about it, you have to be just a little insane to spend a lot of time uploading files to share in the first place. You have to be just as insane to spend a great deal of time an effort making meaningful posts in the part of the forum where few of the members dare to tread, but people still do it for the sake of sharing.
Monkey D. Ruffy
Very Respected VIP club member
Added: Jul 02, 2008 5:59 pm
Shadowman wrote:
The contributors here don't post with the primary interest of acquiring RS points. They do so to share what they have with the rest of the community.

AKAbob wrote:
That is exactly it. The guys who post would have done so anyway.


100% agreed.
The only reason for me to buy a premium account was to get rid of these annoying time limits and captchas.

The first time I decided to post (long time ago) were on Russian and Japanese boards, and I did it cause I had stuff someone was searching for (these Japanese are strange guys, they hate DOMs (=Download only members) and they will help you only to understand their boards or how you can open posts if you are an active member. The say DOMs won't participate, so they have to be quiet).

And these Japanese boards use very exotic upload boards and packaging progs (Russians mostly use KGB and WINRAR, but Japanese use DGCA, WINRAR, and BDBZM (only available in Japanese; if you can't read Kanji you cannot use it).
By the way DGCA is very nice, you can choose to use graphics as pass. And you need exactly this graphic, edited ones won't work.

They both hate Rapidshare cause material get deleted there very soon, especially if you use no pass or obvious titles.

And guess what: The upload sites are free for use, but no points, no rewards, nothing you'll get.

If I think about the time my two threads here at forumophilia consumed so far, and the money I would have earned if I worked instead, I could buy a five years premium account and still had money left.

Monkey D. Ruffy
AKAbob
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 02, 2008 7:28 pm
Monkey D. Ruffy wrote:


If I think about the time ... consumed


I don't mind the time consumption, as long as the resulting contribution isn't short-lived.

I hate it when hosts die or lose my stored data. I lost a lot of posted image galleries when Imagedemon died. I changed a few to imagehigh. A few days later, that host wen't "tits up", also. I got pretty good at manipulating forum code at Imagevenue to give my galleries a better presentation.

I changed some .gif images I posted more than a few times because of their untimely demises under mysterious circumstances.

I have lost very little as Terms of Service violations. I am only aware because of members asking for reposts of things that, although not deleted by me, are no longer in my Rapidshare folder.

Speaking of short-lived, I joined a Mexican forum so I could see unedited versions of babes I see on Univision. I even tried to contribute, but their posting rules regarding formats and filenaming made posting a bitch. Even if you did contribute, there was little traffic to view the contribution. I was well over 100 posts, the vast majority of them being media contributions, when, after less than two months, the administrator changed to a new forum format. He didn't transfer anything over from the old forum. All that time and effort right down the drain.

A few weeks later I was invited to join his new forum. I contributed a thread. Traffic through this forum was horribly slow. Not much enthusiasm went into the content rebuilding effort, either. After a month or so I got a forum prompt asking me why I had not posted lately. I posted a few deserved thanks to get rid of the screen prompt.Less than a month later, that forum died.

A month or so later I was invited to join yet another incarnation of the same forum under new management. The atmosphere and rules are a little friendlier, but I am not interested in most of the contributions. I saw most of it in the first two forums. I don't get by there very often, but I try to post a thanks when I stop in.
Monkey D. Ruffy
Very Respected VIP club member
Added: Jul 02, 2008 9:45 pm
AKAbob wrote:

I don't mind the time consumption, as long as the resulting contribution isn't short-lived.


Yeah, know what you mean.
Nothing is more annoying than investing time to post (including previews) and than the post is gone and all that for nothing.

I saved all previews of all posts I've made so if one of the image hosting sites dies, I can upload a new one very fast.

And every single clip or set I post is archived, so I loose only the time I invested in the upload.

Monkey D. Ruffy
AKAbob
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 03, 2008 3:36 am
I finally found the Rapidshare explanation of "rapidpoints" and edited the passage into the second post on this thread.

It was in the FAX Embarassed

Rapidshare wrote:
What are RapidPoints?

* Each time a Free Users downloads your files, you gain points. You get a RapidPoint for each download, provided that the file is bigger than 3 megabyte and the user has not generated more than 3 RapidPoints in the last hour. Premium users can generate for you up to 255 points per day. Your files have to be stored in the Collectors� Zone or the Premium Zone so that we can assign the download to your account.


I don't understand the part in bold text.

It starts out talking about "free" users and "Each time". Then it states restrictions of 3MB and 3 points generated per user per downloaded hour. I understand this part.

Then it mentions Premium users generating a maximum of points, instead of saying a file can earn a maximum of points.

I'm lost. Confused
jbsa
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 03, 2008 3:51 am
AKAbob wrote:
I finally found the Rapidshare explanation of "rapidpoints" and edited the passage into the second post on this thread.

It was in the FAX Embarassed

Rapidshare wrote:
What are RapidPoints?

* Each time a Free Users downloads your files, you gain points. You get a RapidPoint for each download, provided that the file is bigger than 3 megabyte and the user has not generated more than 3 RapidPoints in the last hour. Premium users can generate for you up to 255 points per day. Your files have to be stored in the Collectors� Zone or the Premium Zone so that we can assign the download to your account.


I don't understand the part in bold text.

It starts out talking about "free" users and "Each time". Then it states restrictions of 3MB and 3 points generated per user per downloaded hour. I understand this part.

Then it mentions Premium users generating a maximum of points, instead of saying a file can earn a maximum of points.

I'm lost. Confused


so they are changing their policy on rapidpoints too? i am not sure what it means, but it doesn't sound good. it could be like you said or worse it could be that a premium user can only get a max of 255 points a day, or less than 8000 pts per month.....

it sounds like they are making it harder for uploaders to get free accounts. greedy bastards
AKAbob
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 03, 2008 5:59 am
jbsa wrote:
so they are changing their policy on rapidpoints too?

I don't know how long it has been that way. I remember what it was when I joined 2 years ago, but I haven't had a reason to look since then.
Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Jul 03, 2008 1:52 pm
AKAbob wrote:
I

Rapidshare wrote:
What are RapidPoints?

* Each time a Free Users downloads your files, you gain points. You get a RapidPoint for each download, provided that the file is bigger than 3 megabyte and the user has not generated more than 3 RapidPoints in the last hour. Premium users can generate for you up to 255 points per day. Your files have to be stored in the Collectors� Zone or the Premium Zone so that we can assign the download to your account.


I don't understand the part in bold text.


I got this screenshot from my premium account home page. Sounds like good news for uploaders. The way I translate it is that anyone who has posted a reasonable amount of material here can now hope to make about 7600 RS points per month from premium account holders alone.

[URL=http://www.casimages.com]screenshot[/URL]
bobundy
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 03, 2008 2:01 pm
screenshot

Here is my Rapidshare Collectors Zone Thingy,
I Have Only been Posting on forums for About Two years,The last 18 months Here.I have never paid for a Rapidshare Account and get a free one using accumilated points.If you do the work and surf the Web looking for files to pass on and D/L and Rename/Edit etc and Upload and Post here for others to benifit from your work you get rewarded from Rapidshare with free accounts.I also Post a lot of files obtained from my vast collection of Videos and DVDs.I agree with a previous poster who abhors Megaupload.I think they stink
.I suppose my main reason for posting a comment here is to say that if you are prepared to put in you will reap the benifits.
While i am on my soap box,just a comment about ISP servers.Tomorrow I begin a new account with IPRIMUS au.Its called the Big Kahuna , 200 gigs for a Month.40 g @ peak time - 9am to 3 am.and 160 g off Peak 3am to 9am,.Not real good but the worse to come.I found out after signing up that Uploads are included in Total Months D/L Quota.Not a happy Camper.I have Decided to try it for 1 Month and maybe go back to my original account [60g]
Anyhoo thats my comments ,Cheers to all .... Bo
drolli
Good Poster
Added: Jul 03, 2008 4:15 pm
jbsa wrote:
AKAbob wrote:
I finally found the Rapidshare explanation of "rapidpoints" and edited the passage into the second post on this thread.

It was in the FAX Embarassed

Rapidshare wrote:
What are RapidPoints?

* Each time a Free Users downloads your files, you gain points. You get a RapidPoint for each download, provided that the file is bigger than 3 megabyte and the user has not generated more than 3 RapidPoints in the last hour. Premium users can generate for you up to 255 points per day. Your files have to be stored in the Collectors� Zone or the Premium Zone so that we can assign the download to your account.


I don't understand the part in bold text.

It starts out talking about "free" users and "Each time". Then it states restrictions of 3MB and 3 points generated per user per downloaded hour. I understand this part.

Then it mentions Premium users generating a maximum of points, instead of saying a file can earn a maximum of points.

I'm lost. Confused


so they are changing their policy on rapidpoints too? i am not sure what it means, but it doesn't sound good. it could be like you said or worse it could be that a premium user can only get a max of 255 points a day, or less than 8000 pts per month.....

it sounds like they are making it harder for uploaders to get free accounts. greedy bastards


No, wait, this is actually good Smile

It's better explained in the Rapidshare news section:

Rapidshare wrote:
RapidPoints for Premium Downloads

July 02, 2008
In the past, Premium and Collector's Accounts were only credited a RapidPoint when a file was downloaded by a Free User.

From now on, Premium Downloads can generate up to 255 additional RapidPoints per day. Those extra points will be displayed in the account overview in the Premium or Collector's Zone.

Once a day, the extra points will be added to the Premium or Collector's Account's RapidPoints balance and the extra points counter will be reset to zero.


You used to make points from free user downloads only

Now with the new policy, in addition to those points you get points from premium user downloads as well (up to a maximum of 255 a day)

So you end up with more points... this is good since I have the feeling that most of the downloads nowadays come from premium users anyway

Lots of changes going on at Rapidshare the last couple of days:

- no more captchas for free users
- max file size is now 200 MB instead of 100 MB