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ciggy
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Added: Dec 09, 2006 3:17 am
junkdewd wrote:
I think he is simply a crybaby. There are thousands of sites on the web that are profitable and I see their pictures on the web and usenet every day. This guy, had the all around opportunity to run his business as he saw fit, and that was into the ground. Now that he failed, he wants to blame the internet users. Ive said it before, there are ways to track the pics. Sure, savvy users are gonna bypass it. But this is his fault for stepping back and whining instead of being proactive until he failed and needed someone to blame. I tried on 4 dfferent occasions to sbscribe to gabes first archive site. Theg guy refused to take a payment and allow me to subscrive for any reason. So, I didnt sbscribe to model-gabe either. He obviously ddnt undersand I wnated to give him the money he so readily desires now that his models have grown too old for his personal tastes.


I hear you.

Of the five sites I've run in the past, four were unsuccessful and one was successful until the model quit. I have no one to blame but myself for mistakes I made along the way which limited the success of the four, and for the fifth one I credit some of my own decisions (things learned the hard way) and also credit a particularly hot model.

One of the decisions to be made is which payment system to use, and if that isn't the right decision, all other aspects of the business will hurt. It has to be a smoothe, painless, efficient, and pleasant experience for the subscriber, or else he won't BE a subscriber. One mistake I made a few times was an effort to try to pinch a few pennies out of the process and go with CC processors with lower transaction fees, but a more difficult and unreliable interface. Never again.

The reason websites can be profitable when their pictures end up on the Usenet and forums is because... their pictures ended up on the Usenet and forums. Had it not been for the Usenet I never would have known the TFuns website ever existed, and in spite of how many TF sets were out on Usenet, I still wanted more, so I subscribed. That bit of learning doesn't always sink in though, because when it's your work, your first instinct is to feel robbed, cheated out of subscription money, for the pics being out there. But the thing to do is just man up, take the pain of that feeling, live through it, and then reap the rewards as the freebies turn into advertising, traffic, interest, buzz, and... chaching.

I'm damn near tempted to call my next domain name, "steal-this-website.com" LOL. I'll actually put into my terms of service, "photo sharing on forums and Usenet IS encouraged! I'll be updating old sets too though, so no matter how many times you do that, true collectors will be in need of fills so you'll be giving me free advertising, and... thank you!"
ciggy
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Added: Dec 09, 2006 3:25 am
Herald wrote:
Burn wrote:
perhaps Gab was simply uncomfortable doing the nude stuff (look at some of her pics, she looks uncomfortable at times) and simply decided to quit?

It's been posted before that Gabrielle seems to dislike the nude stuff, since she hardly smiles when she's topless. I find it hard to believe that a girl who's been photographed in the most tiny and see-trough thongs since she was 14 would have problems with nudity. Seeing her sets it really seemed inevitable for her to finally show it all.

However I understand there was a new guy (photographer?) and maybe she wasn't comfortable with him. But I really doubt that she'd mind showing her pussy for real instead of showing her pussy in a sheer thong (especially after doing that for the past 4 years).


Having worked with quite a few models I can say that girls can be drop dead gorgeous and still very unsure of themselves in terms of their looks. Now, if they're in a thong and some frilly lingerie, it's easier for them to feel sexy because a lot of the sexiness can be focused on what (little) they're wearing, including the see-thru stuff. If she's completely butt-ass naked she knows it's all her, and the pressure's on. It's an insecure position to be in, and the photographer has to be very reassuring and comforting in the way he deals with her when the clothes come off. She can feel more vulnerable too, which means too much of a lecherous reaction can be threatening and just as bad as too little of a reaction. She has to feel as if it's her best friend who finds her sexy but knows the boundaries. It's a fine line to walk, and not all photographers can walk it. I didn't always walk it--school of "soft" knocks in this case, LOL.

Bottom line, the discomfort is rarely a matter of the girl suddenly being prudish, but most often a matter of security in her looks or how comfortable she feels in the presence of the photographer based on his reactions. Girls have a lot of "slut power" lurking beneath the surface of their personalities, but inhibitions will bury that if she calls herself into question about it, or if she feels threatened.
Burn
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Added: Dec 09, 2006 12:35 pm
I'd laugh if this was one huge publicity stunt.

It's become quite talked about news on at least two newsgroups and this forum. I'm guessing there's discussion going on elsewhere as well.

Watch as a "christmas present" an announcement is made to continue the site with new fresh content and people will flock to join it because their guilty conscience has gotten to them. Razz
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junkdewd
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Added: Dec 09, 2006 1:12 pm
Looks like someone is flooding the newsgroups again with her entire collection up to the last set. There ever a couple newsgroup in her name if you look for them now. This photog really pissed off some fans.
geezad
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Added: Dec 10, 2006 1:38 am
stevo17 wrote:
cute girl, but I fear that she will never loose the baby fat... Confused

Dude, you have got to be kidding. I would take girls like this over Paris Hilton or the Olsen twins any day.
Friend12
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Added: Dec 10, 2006 9:06 pm
Friend12 wrote:
Very Happy

REPOST LAST SET


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and another Repost


enjoy


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climber303
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Added: Dec 11, 2006 5:29 pm
Friend12 - you rock! Thanks for throwing that up for us. Sweet set! Shocked
greendoor
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Added: Dec 12, 2006 3:35 am
Let me second that, THANKS!
Rabid
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Added: Dec 12, 2006 3:50 am
agian, were not supposed to post the entire sets here....i apprecate what your doing as do others, but theres been MANY MANY times we have been asked nicely to not post full sets, yet everyone ignores the admins.....
Rabid
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Added: Dec 12, 2006 5:09 pm
from the models forum....
Quote:

"As I wrote, there are a few reasons for the decision, but in the end Gabby decided to retire. After 4 1/2 years, every good thing comes to an end. There's no division between Gabby and me, yet I will not discuss Gabby's personal reasons for making such a decision. The wonderful photo sets will still be available in the archive website."
Burn
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Added: Dec 12, 2006 8:58 pm
So it's gone from blaming sharers to Gabby simple retiring. heh. Never saw that coming. Rolling Eyes
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junkdewd
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Added: Dec 12, 2006 10:02 pm
Burn wrote:
So it's gone from blaming sharers to Gabby simple retiring. heh. Never saw that coming. Rolling Eyes


Gabby probably got tired of him pushing her. The guy is just a crybaby. Nothing is his fault, once again. It's gabes fault for ruing his business that was already ruined by sharers. STFU and go back to business school and get a job instead of exploiting young girls. If you can make a living dign it, great, but he apparently wasnt smart enough.
Herald
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Added: Dec 12, 2006 11:03 pm
that must be such a let down, waiting 4,5 years before you can finally ask your model to spread her legs without panties (and take pictures of it legally), and the model decides to quit Very Happy

I always assume the 18th birthday of their model is THE day photographers are waiting for. Ever since they spotted a nice little 14yo girl and talking the parents into taking pictures of her in daring outfits, they wait for the day they can finally say "so now your 18 you want to be a real grown up girl eh..."
aquamonkey
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Added: Dec 13, 2006 9:44 am
Herald wrote:
I always assume the 18th birthday of their model is THE day photographers are waiting for. Ever since they spotted a nice little 14yo girl and talking the parents into taking pictures of her in daring outfits, they wait for the day they can finally say "so now your 18 you want to be a real grown up girl eh..."

It certainly is the point to get the top down, which is something that really hurt Gabrielle's career. Turn 18, new site, same photos Rolling Eyes
junkdewd
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Added: Dec 13, 2006 11:31 pm
Herald wrote:
that must be such a let down, waiting 4,5 years before you can finally ask your model to spread her legs without panties (and take pictures of it legally), and the model decides to quit Very Happy

I always assume the 18th birthday of their model is THE day photographers are waiting for. Ever since they spotted a nice little 14yo girl and talking the parents into taking pictures of her in daring outfits, they wait for the day they can finally say "so now your 18 you want to be a real grown up girl eh..."


Its obvious from previous sets that her photog had seem her naked on numerous occasions.