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Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Jan 02, 2008 8:43 pm
You aught to try the online stuff Gem. You might enjoy it. But forget the laws of probability. They don't exist there.
voltaic
Poster
Added: Jan 03, 2008 1:37 am
Well i guess six years of experience would help a tad Razz I've only been playing consistently for maybe eight months. Consistently meaning about 10 hours a week.
Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Jan 03, 2008 12:17 pm
voltaic wrote:
Well i guess six years of experience would help a tad Razz I've only been playing consistently for maybe eight months. Consistently meaning about 10 hours a week.

Give it time mate. It's so hard to win consistently. Remember that if you can win consistently at a rate of 4 times the big blind per hour you are playing good poker. That's all the pros aim for.
voltaic
Poster
Added: Jan 04, 2008 2:21 am
Shadowman wrote:
voltaic wrote:
Well i guess six years of experience would help a tad Razz I've only been playing consistently for maybe eight months. Consistently meaning about 10 hours a week.

Give it time mate. It's so hard to win consistently. Remember that if you can win consistently at a rate of 4 times the big blind per hour you are playing good poker. That's all the pros aim for.


True. I tend to forget that the clips on TV are just highlights and even the best don't win most of the time Very Happy
jejejeje
Respected VIP club member
Added: Jan 04, 2008 4:07 am
I've won a tournament once on partypoker.

Was playmoney only - but still fun!! Playing plain hold-em I think. Started final table on low stack. When the table was down to 4 fours I had maybe 100k chips and the board leader had 1.2m - or some silly advantage like that.

A little while later I knocked out one guy and he knocked out one guy, so heads up I was behind like 300k to 1.5m. Unbeatable position right? Not really. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Made a few other final tables.

Worst beat - seems to happen all the time:
I draw say 88 and call pot. Flop comes 8QQ. Full boat - I'm laughing. Some other schmo had Q8 in his hand and had a bigger full house. Oh piss off.

Best hand. I was low stack about 20 to go in tourney. Draw QQ and go all in. Due to low stack this only raises pot about 3x. Three others go in with me. Flop KK6. Two pair. Not bad. Next comes a Q. Full house now - you go girl. Final card - Q. Four of a kind - Quadripple up. Smile
Hand went from a pair to two pair, to full, to four. It kept getting better with each card!! I was back in the tourney and ended up making final table and finished around 5th.
Funny thing was I was behind at all stages until that final Q. One guy had AA in hand (better hand pre-flop). Another had AK (trips on flop beating my two pair). Other guy had K6 and had better full house up to forth. I bad beat all of them Laughing

Most satisfying hand:
Some dude was over raising each pot - stealing all blinds and being an arse about it. I was patient and ending up drawing AA and just called it. He thinking himself the man super over raised again. Naturally I won the pot and stole all his chips and laughed at him. Very satisfying. Smile

Worst beat seen:
Casino Royale. Wink Sif.

Least they showed the hero losing some hands. Normally that doesn't happen and the hero just wins everything by default.




Wouldn't ever do a cash game. I don't like throwing away money on a novelty time waster such as playing cards.
Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Jan 04, 2008 11:17 am
It takes some doing to win a big tournament at Partypoker. They have some great players there. Well done jejejeje. I only ever play the freeroll tournaments as well. Given the odds against making it into the money in tournaments it isn't worth paying to enter them. I prefer tournament play to ring games and for some reason I'm more successful. Maybe my style suits tournaments better.

I had an unbelievable win on the money tables at Virginpoker Yesterday. Made me think that maybe Father Christmas isn't a myth after all. I only usually play the very small blind tables because I only had about 65 Euros in the site. Yesterday however I couldn't get a small blind table so I ended up playing on a 50 Euro table with almost my entire stake in front of me. Third hand I had AA in late position. I raised pre-flop to 5 times the blind and everyone folded apart from one guy with a big stack who called out of position to me. The flop came up with an A to give me a set. Split suits and no chance of a straight so I'd flopped the nuts. To my amazement the other guy made a big bet. I let the clock run down for a while as if I was thinking about it and called. I almost wet myself when the turn gave me the fourth A and the other guy put me all in. I virtually doubled my stake on the site in one hand.

jejejeje wrote:
Worst beat - seems to happen all the time:
I draw say 88 and call pot. Flop comes 8QQ. Full boat - I'm laughing. Some other schmo had Q8 in his hand and had a bigger full house. Oh piss off.

My bogey hand is pockets Ks and I flop a set. I don't think I've ever won with that hand. What usually happens is I make a big bet and someone calls me through and makes a flush or straight on the river.
jejejeje
Respected VIP club member
Added: Feb 01, 2008 1:27 pm
forgot this thread Wink

Played another tourney recently and did well (freelands money :p)

I played super tight and got an unbelieveable amount of respect. Very simple gamerule. Fold mostly everything. When in position raise blind 3x. If flop comes up nothing much - check. If flops comes up an A or K... bet. Nothing over the top, just enough to make people think I'm going for a value bet, but a little too much for them to stay in the hand on a draw.
People started getting scared of me and kept folding. They kept thinking, well I must have caught my cards and had them beat. I hardly had to show at all Laughing

Problem was I was only technically stealing low pots, so wasn't progressing too much. By the time it got to around 30 players I had still maybe 50k while the leaders where in the 200k+ range.

Still a couple of good hands on the chip leader who was trying to bully the table and suddenly I was up in the 150k's and about top 5. Smile

What I really like to see though is the players you start the tourney with also making it to the final couple of tables. One guy on my first table won a couple of the super all-in bets by the noobs in the start hands and went to 20k real quick. He then went tight and just waited around. Table broke up and I thought that would be the end of him.

But then we were down to two tables. I opened up the other one as well to spy and there he was - 3 hours after he was on 20k on the second final table.. with 30k chips Laughing

The guy who was chip leader got moved to the second table, and also got beat down further by the guy I was with from the first table. This guy tripled up from 30 to 90, then again from 90 to 270 and tourney leader Very Happy

Seriously - the guy had probably only won six hands for the night and was chip leader Laughing

Naturally enough he then blew it and was out a couple of hands later.. but still - pays to be patient Wink

Back to me being in the 150's and looking fine. Problem is when you get chips, you get cocky. I started calling to get into flops for no reason and started going backwards.

Down to 110 and I finally picked up a hand. Those freaking set of K's like yours Shadow.... I'd trapped some low ball player and check raised him on forth. My bet made him put his last 40k into the pot. I thought it would have been an easy fold for him, but instead he though about it for a long time before finally deciding bugger it and calling it. Ace came on the river and he got a straight. When he called $$ signs came up in my eyes as I thought I'd make a huge profit. Instead back to nowhere.

I froze up for a few hands and it went into the final table. Blinds were huge and I was trying to be patient. I finally flopped QQ and went all-in. Guess who came into the pot with me? Same guy who was chip leader for a time, that I'd crippled, then my first table buddy had crippled. He'd fought back real hard and was in the running again.
He had Ace / nothing. Fifth came up... Ace again... Doh.

Moral in poker. Patience is king. Good players can come back from anywhere.

A fun waste of time... as long as you don't throw money at it Smile
Shadowman
Retired Legend
Added: Feb 01, 2008 10:39 pm
I'm in total agreement with you jejejeje. I've been convinced for a long time that playing consistently successful poker is not about how much you win but how little you lose. Like you I'm a very tight player quite happy to pass hand after hand winning the occasional small pot and hopefully the occasional big one.

You are right that you don't need to win a lot of hands to play successful tournament poker. (I once won a 10 player sit and go tournament and I only played 5 hands past the flop in it). You just need the patience to wait for your opportunities and not get scared by the escalating blinds.
Romulus
Good Poster
Added: Feb 08, 2008 6:15 am
Gemini37 wrote:
I've never played cyber-poker but I do enjoy getting together with friends and having a nice friendly game of poker.


I would have to agree, Gemini37

While having played both online and live games (local casino & friendly games when I'm in town)... I prefer the live games over online poker.

Best casino poker win during a single hand... texas hold 'em... quad 3's... won just over $1200.00... a good win, but not my best poker hand...

Recently... while playing Dealer's Choice with some friends... a game called Whole Hog was dealt (a seven-card stud game... much like High Chicago except both high spade down & best hand MUST be held by the same player to win - or the hand is re-dealt until only one winner).

After several hands with no winner... I was dealt my down cards... 5(h) & 2(d)... and A(s) face up for third card.... nothing great... but you can't fold a hand or you are out for the remainder of the game...

Fourth card.... A(c)... pair of aces... I'm thinking cool... but I have no spade in the hole...

Fifth card... A(h)... a set of Aces... great!.. but ... again.. no spade in the hole... I think... well... atleast I have a potential stopper for someone who has a spade and only a moderate hand to back it up....

Sixth card... you guessed it.... the final Ace.... Ace(d).... quad aces showing... face up.... and NO F'N SPADE.... with only one card left to deal... face down...

I look at the pot in the middle of the table.... mentally counting atleast $30 ... maybe $35 in the pot (not bad for small, friendly game)...

Now.. I'm not a religious person.. not even a little bit... but you can damn well bet I was praying to someone or something at that moment... praying for a high spade...

I get the last card dealt... I tuck it under the other two hole cards... all eyes are on me... wondering if I have it or not... I shuffle the three cards over & over...

Without looking... I bet the table max... just to see if I can get someone to fold... all called...

I flipped them over... last card was the 6 of clubs...totally worthless

Cards were collected and dealt again.... I eventually lost the game to the friend sitting to my right...

I think I would have to call that my best and worst hand ... to have a hand like that... and get nothing from it.

(I took a picture of the cards with my phone before they collected & re-shuffled... now it's my cellphone wallpaper) Smile