whats happening to Abby Winters??

I have to agree with everything that's been said here. The girls aren't as cute as they used to be and the nudity in a lot of sets is minimal. And suggestions for improvement always fell on deaf ears.
They won't be getting another membership from me.

Someone should tell them:

"The customer is always right."

I have to concur with everyone else.

I kept my first membership there for about a year, only letting it lapse to give them a chance to build up more inventory, as I thought i'd downloaded all the vids of girls I found attractive, and I didn't see any girls in the previews worth stayiong for.

I checked them out again last year after a couple years away, and only stayed for the duration of my initial purchase. More chubby girls, more pussy-shy girls, more zits on the asses, and even the Gold tier 3 lesbian stuff was unimaginative. Gone were the girls with the energy and cuteness of my earlier membership.

Recently I e-muled five AW girl-girl vids and after waiting a few days for the downloads to complete, I only found one of them even worth watching, let alone saving to my hard drive.

There was a time I would have heartily recommended AW to any friend. Now, I wouldn't even tell a Lesbian friend about it.

guess the consensus is that AW has gotten pretty bad

i dont even bother visiting site anymore its just getting worse everyday

the peak of this site is when they did weekly promo vids - they were quite good and now no longer done

huge financial problems and so the downfall is beginning

www3333332001 wrote:
Believe me - they were told. Like I said earlier in this thread, I'm on a site that has direct interaction with webmasters and site representatives. I asked them to respond to all the comments that have been left about the site going down hill and they steadfastly choose to ignore the request and the comments.

I'll say this again, too - It's a damn shame 'cuz AW was one of those sites I'd always looked forward to going back to.

they cant pay the models very much so that will continue to hurt them

the site membership is spiraling downward no doubt

all new employees (the former employees dont think are there anymore)

owners are just milking the membership and not really planning for the future

guess they did an analysis where they paid alot more for prettier models and it did not really matter - revenues were the same with cheaper models - occassionally they must pay up for a nice model but this is becoming more infrequent

sooo sad

they did it again

new vid with Cate a very cute girl (nice to see) and during her vid she just sits on her ass for the whole video

cant really see her really nice body

they really need to understand what people want in the vids (i guess they feel intellectual conversation is what guys want - they have no clue)

have the girl get up and do something interesting (its a video)

This was the latest response from their webmaster/representative on the other forum.

AbbyWinters Representative wrote:

Yeah - we'd love to watch some boobies - but you have to show 'em so we can see 'em!. If they think 20 minutes of a clothed girl talking is "the journey, not the destination", they're obviously forgotten what made them the great site it once was.

Abbey Winters was one of the first sites I subscribed to and in those days it was great. They had some good concepts like the solo mastubation with only the camera and then just two girls.

I also thought the camerawork was great. In the girl girl vids, they always seemed to film just what I was hoping they would.

The girls were just my type and the fact that they had a forum and the girls replied also added to it.

But then they seemed to get greedy. They split the site so asking for more money. Plus the quality seemed to go down. Which was strange as they started to get competition from a couple of other Aussie sites. I would have thought they would try the opposite.

Also the forums seemed to backfire. When I was around they had a lot of loyal people posting all the time and if you dared raise a complaint, these guys would be on at you defending the site. I decided to take my money elsewhere. Not been back since.

today, they have posted a real nice looking blond and the pics show full frontal standing poses, but the video just shows her sitting on her ass not doing much of anything


very very disappointing,

Well... here's some of the latest feedback from their site.
AbbyWinters Rep wrote:

I hope that isn't just blowing smoke. I know I certainly don't believe that they get too many people screaming for less nudity. Hopefully we'll get more current members who will chime in here to let us know if things really are turning around.

'too much nudity' - is this possible. granted, seeing them in clothes up front is expected and then getting nude more quickly and staying nude alot longer and keeping them off their cute asses by doing more activity stuff

its not rocket science - just takes some thought

'dark period' - clearly girls ( my guess mostly lesbians as most models are on the site) were doing all the video work and planning and did not even think about their audience

i loved the nude walk around tours of where models lived - check earlier vids and you'll see lots of this stuff. its very good.

love it when real cute girls just stand up fully nude and talk to camera for awhile.

I was a member of AW for 2 or 3 times in the past and in general I liked the sites content. What I didn't like was a) that at least 75% of the girls didn't shave and b) most of the girls wore these strange knickers...

Are Aussie girls really that different from European girls???

Due to the discussion I checked the recent models of AW and I must say that I still like the girls - and I still hate that they don't shave! But you have to give AW the credit for not showing the mainstream look that you see on every other site. Meanwhile I really get bored looking at all these Lubas, Marketas etc...

I can't believe that AW staff really thinks that men like the teasing factor. Forget it! Show the girl in clothes, undress her in the first third of the set and then show her in every dirty position you can think of! It's so easy!

I guess it'd be good to advise people to join porn review sites so they can leave comments that AW will see and respond to directly. I know they've gotten an earful (in a cyber kinda way) from the one I'm on. If they see the complaints aren't limited to just a small group of people, maybe they'll wake up.

Then again, we've already been promised that things are going to turn around. But it sure as hell couldn't hurt to keep on 'em about it!

AW just came out with sleepover girls vid

not much nudity in main video and boring, but backstage was a treat with some full nudity standing around.

curious to hear thoughts on this vid