Euro 2008

Loui375 wrote:



Yeah, the Germans are usually very good at defending a lead...doesn't always make for an exciting match but it gets the job done.

Turkey's comeback was pretty awesome to watch but surely based on tonight's performance, (by both side) Germany must got through to the final.

Congratz to Turkey! nice1

I´m from México, european soccer is far away from all, it´s the best soccer in the whole world, after watching this games, I see that no american or asian, or african soccer teams are needed to see best quality of soccer. Today I was surprised by Turkey, but in my opinion Holland will be the new champ...Cheers to all!!

NetterMan wrote:



......Who is Holland? these guys know what a soccer is? ....lol
I hope we can play at the Final-Game versus this orange-tulips
We was almost always victorious when we had played versus Netherland


But first we must play versus Turkey!
I know this Match will be great too!

Cant believe Turkey last night! Crazy stuff. On paper Germany should beat them, adding Turkey also losing 3 more of their better players to suspension, fighting spirit alone may not get them through this time...

But then again I did think Croatia were going to do them & Croatia did well against Germany.. hmm. Who knows..?

hansix wrote:

Holland is a region of the Netherlands, it was used to name all the country of Netherlands since 1060 to around 14th century and it cames from Dutch as Holtland, correct I fall in the error of name Holland the whole nation.
But, Dutch is not used as an adjective for Holland in a modern context because Dutch refers to all of the Netherlands, not just Holland.
But maybe I´m wrong...Cheers!
By the way, I´ve read it in wikipedia, witch could be a powerful tool to solve all doubs.
And good luck with Turkey...

Yes i know Holland and the name "Holland too" all german peoples say
"Holland" and they are our biggest rivals (always). I was joking a bit
at my last post We had 30 Matches against each other....the first was
14.3.1956, at the Düsseldorfer Rheinstadion.
take a look:

I am not sure but i mean the reason for all the trubble in the last
years was the unfair
spit-attack from "Frank Rijkaard" versus Rudi Völler at the WM 1990 (fixed)
look here:

From this day are Holland & Germany a bit estranged;)
And all Matches versus Holland are more prestige-games
But i am sure,... if we reached the Final-round and we must play
versus Holland we will win,....once again

....No offence! to all Dutchman peoples,...but we have much more skill

And thanks for your good wishes for the next Match versus Tukey

have a nice day.

I guess you're either very young, or have a bad memory....

hansix wrote:

That was in 1990, the world cup tournament in Italy!

The reason the Germans dislike Dutch football/soccer, is 'cause the Dutch always have produced better players. Johan Cruyff, Marco van Basten, Ruud Gullit, Dennis Bergkamp.... The list goes on and on.

The only two great players from Germany I can think of are Uwe Seeler and Franz Beckenbauer. They had some good players, like Thomas Häßler, Günter Netzer and Lothar Matthäus (one of the biggest pricks alive if you ask me), but not exceptionally good ones.


One of the reasons the Dutch (actually most Europeans do...) hate German football/soccer is, that for some reason they win a lot, even when they play like crap (they usually do ).

By the way, the last time Germany beat the Netherlands was in 1996, twelve years ago.....

Jeff Spicoli wrote:

Ok,...that was my mistake! it was 1990 not 1982 !!!
But thats the only thing whats right at your comment
....i dont have the time to post here today all achievements from the
glory German-football team! thats to many titles and acquisitions.



We had won against Holland 13x
Holland had won only 10 Games against us

here some important info´s for you:

Germany was Worldchampion 3 times!!!!!!
and Holland: 0 (never)
Germany was 7 times in the Final-Match ......

1954 (DAS WUNDER VON BERN)

1974

1990


check this too:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=hqFzo3FZcSc&NR=1




and here a small list of the best german-players from 1960-2008

2008 Łukasz Podolski / Bastian Schweinsteiger
2007 Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart)
2006 Miroslav Klose (SV Werder Bremen)
2005 Michael Ballack (FC Bayern München)
2004 Ailton (SV Werder Bremen)
2003 Michael Ballack (FC Bayern München)
2002 Michael Ballack (TSV Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
2001 Oliver Kahn (FC Bayern München)
2000 Oliver Kahn (FC Bayern München)
1999 Lothar Matthäus (FC Bayern München)
1998 Oliver Bierhoff (AC Mailand, Italien)
1997 Jürgen Kohler (Borussia Dortmund)
1996 Matthias Sammer (Borussia Dortmund)
1995 Matthias Sammer (Borussia Dortmund)
1994 Jürgen Klinsmann (Tottenham Hotspur, England)
1993 Andreas Köpke (1. FC Nürnberg)
1992 Thomas Häßler (AS Rom, Italien)
1991 Stefan Kuntz (1. FC Kaiserslautern)
1990 Lothar Matthäus (Inter Mailand, Italien)
1989 Thomas Häßler (1. FC Köln)
1988 Jürgen Klinsmann (VfB Stuttgart)
1987 Uwe Rahn (VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach)
1986 Harald "Toni" Schumacher (1. FC Köln)
1985 Hans-Peter Briegel (Hellas Verona, Italien)
1984 Harald "Toni" Schumacher (1. FC Köln)
1983 Rudi Völler (SV Werder Bremen)
1982 Karl-Heinz Förster (VfB Stuttgart)
1981 Paul Breitner (FC Bayern München)
1980 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (FC Bayern München)
1979 Berti Vogts (VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach)
1978 Sepp Maier (FC Bayern München)
1977 Sepp Maier (FC Bayern München)
1976 Franz Beckenbauer (FC Bayern München)
1975 Sepp Maier (FC Bayern München)
1974 Franz Beckenbauer (Bayern München)
1973 Günter Netzer (VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach)
1972 Günter Netzer (VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach)
1971 Berti Vogts (VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach)
1970 Uwe Seeler (Hamburger SV)
1969 Gerd Müller (FC Bayern München)
1968 Franz Beckenbauer (FC Bayern München)
1967 Gerd Müller (FC Bayern München)
1966 Franz Beckenbauer (Bayern München)
1965 Hans Tilkowski (Borussia Dortmund)
1964 Uwe Seeler (Hamburger SV)
1963 Hans Schäfer (1. FC Köln)
1962 Karl-Heinz Schnellinger (1. FC Köln)
1961 Max Morlock (1. FC Nürnberg)
1960 Uwe Seeler (Hamburger SV)

i think no more i must say;)


bb

Jeff Spicoli wrote:

How many times have they met since then and how many have Holland won?

Anyhow, it may an immaterial. statistic Holland still have to win two more games...

Anyhow, it may an immaterial. statistic Holland still have to win two more games...[/quote]


15 mins away from not winning one.

Well, well. Shocks all round. Russia v Turkey final at this rate..

well man, you don´t have to worry ´bout Holland any more, Turkey seems easy to the "German Machine" but... we´ll have to see what happends.
I like Turkey a lot, but I must be honest, Germany have it all..
Defense, attack, media, everything...cheers!

I have seen the game Holland against Russia and i mean Russia was
definitively the better team. Many chances for the Russia Team,....!
The better Team has won. Congratulations to Russia!
and.....byebye "Holland"




I am sure,....the Final-Match will be a Great-Match!