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billyellis
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Added: Apr 29, 2008 1:35 pm
Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed My bad. There is a "James Potter" (I think) here as well, and when I saw your post I did not apparently look too closely at your name. In my defense, I am a complete idiot.

I am impressed that you were able to figure out what I meant, though. Surprised

(Many, many Crying or Very sad ) years ago I went to an all boys prep school. The homophobia was totally off the charts (myself included I am sad to say), probably overcompensating for the fact that there were no girls around. However, I grew up eventually and realized that people should be allowed to be who they are without having to be afraid of what small minded people might do to them out of ignorance and misplaced fear. (I've also been married, so I have firsthand experience at what it feels like to be afraid all the time Rolling Eyes , so more than ever I think people should just relax and live and let live).

Which brings me, in a very roundabout way I admit, back to the whole topic of homophobia and over-the-top machismo in porn. Having seen the overcompensation of all of us k1ds in school, I tend to read comments like some of those in your rant in that light - you are watching, as you said, a couple of penises rubbing together in a DP, and naturally that makes you want to pound your chest and break something to prove your heterosexual masculinity. I get it. Smile I was not saying that I think you are out there bashing people at night. But I got over my homophobia years ago, and I now I try to point it out whenever I get a whiff of it from other people, even if it is mild/unconscious/not really intentional. Sort of a penance I have imposed on myself for having been a jackass as a k1d.

The reality is, however, that clean shaved, non-threatening gay men are always going to be the predominant "dudes" in porn scenes because the girls are not threatened in any way by them. And of course because they are admittedly Sad more physically attractive to women than fat, hairy slobs like myself.

Which brings us back to the Max Hardcores of the world. Why are they are so eager to mistreat girls on film? Is it simply overcompensation like immature boys in a prep school, where they go overboard on the machismo to "prove" their hetero 'maleness'? Or, to paraphrase the Bard, do wethinks they doth protest too much? Hmmm... From my perspective, the more someone mistreats girls in porn, the more likely I am to think they are gay (and assholes). IMHO.
billyellis
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Added: May 08, 2008 7:17 pm
How about bald/crew-cut chicks? I am not at all into that. While it is completely understandable for the occasional beautiful and sensitive woman (e.g., Sinead O'Connor) to shave their heads because they are sick of being treated like a beautiful woman instead of as a person...how big a turnoff is it when an already unattractive woman (e.g. Belladonna) cuts off all her hair?? A truckload of Viagra wouldn't be enough at that point. Twisted Evil
mozilladotorg
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Added: May 10, 2008 3:15 am
the thing that i hate about porn is that i am addicted to it - but i can take that to a degree. HOWEVER the thing I hate most about porn is that it can become a replacement for reality, for being with other people, face to face.

though probably that's not an objection to porn per se, it's more technological, how we abuse the computer, or the tv, or drugs or whatever black hole that sucks the life force out of you.
billyellis
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Added: May 10, 2008 3:49 am
mozilladotorg wrote:
the thing that i hate about porn is that i am addicted to it - but i can take that to a degree. HOWEVER the thing I hate most about porn is that it can become a replacement for reality, for being with other people, face to face.

though probably that's not an objection to porn per se, it's more technological, how we abuse the computer, or the tv, or drugs or whatever black hole that sucks the life force out of you.


Whoa, dude. That should really go in a "What I hate about modern society" thread. I totally agree with you. Hell, I think I have put in 100 posts in the last few weeks, so I clearly need to take a step back. Embarassed

But I think the problem goes far beyond porn. For all the talk about how "connected" email then cell phones then texting was supposed to make us all, IMHO it has done quite the opposite. All the cell phone/computer/etc really ends up being is another layer of isolation b/w a person and other people. Instead of interacting with people, we interact with electronics. 100 years ago, instead of porn forums like this...they had orgies!

How many times a day do you see young k1ds blow off the person they are with to take an incoming phone call or text from someone else? It's weird how society is evolving in the direction that the person of least interest is the one right in front of you who has already accepted your company and conversation...
Josex
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Added: May 10, 2008 4:20 am
Sex is better.
zorucla
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Added: May 10, 2008 8:38 am
Good question, there's a lot of things I can't stand:

1) Anal. I know tons of people love it, I hate it.
2) Any scene where the cameraman thinks extreme closeups = sexy. Fuck that shit, I prefer to see the whole bodies of people.
3) Too much makeup. Pretty girls don't need it, ugly ones shouldn't be in porn in the first place.

-Zor
anna-k
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Added: May 10, 2008 11:13 am
The porn with no passion, where you can clearly see the girls are doing it for the money. I'm more into the the abbywinters style of porn Smile
billyellis
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Added: May 10, 2008 2:12 pm
zorucla wrote:
1) Anal. I know tons of people love it, I hate it.
2) Any scene where the cameraman thinks extreme closeups = sexy. Fuck that shit, I prefer to see the whole bodies of people.
3) Too much makeup. Pretty girls don't need it, ugly ones shouldn't be in porn in the first place.


Nice. I do like anal where it is done as something new and with the kind of slow and gentle approach it needs in real life. That way it seems realistic. I'm not a big fan of dicks the size of baguettes causing gaping so big that if the girl farts it would sound like a freighter in heavy fog.

And I like seeing the face and the playground parts in the same shot as well. Did the extreme closeups originate during times when there were not many pretty faces in porn?

You are spot on with the makeup too. I think the overall theme of the responses here, which I like, has been clearly anti-misogyny. Overdoing the makeup to justify treating the girls like 'whores' (see Max Harcore), as well as turning their assholes into sinkholes both definitely are not the kind of porn that we lovers-of-women like to see.

I guess there are 2 very different "schools of porn" so to speak - the porn for men who hate women and want to see them treated badly by muscular men with the large penises they wish they had, and porn for men who worship women, which is more artistic/realistic, and has a much greater degree of real or implied intimacy.
sittingduck71
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Added: May 10, 2008 3:20 pm
The need for me to have multiple computers. I have to have a gaming computer with all the bells a do-dads and a secondary “porn computer” for my porn archive plus running the printer and other non-game stuff ...I don’t want anything sucking up any resources (hd or ram) on the gaming machine, nor do I want to risk getting a virus on it. Ok, here’s the “I hate porn” part. I’ve got **** and their old enough to use the computer, now I have a third computer for them (one of my old crap ‘puters), cause I can’t jerk off at the “porn station” knowing my **** play Dora the Explorer games on the same computer....dear God!
Sakon
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Added: May 11, 2008 11:16 am
I hate a lot of things in porn:

1: Bad camera work => cameraman filming the girl's face (during she get pussy licked or during too much time or every 10 seconds)

2: A vid where the guy doesn't lick pussy.

3: When the girl keeps her bra (or another single piece of clothe) during sex. I prefer when she's totally naked.

4: Too much makeup.

5: And, the worst of the worst: implants! Damn, how can some people be excited by women with 2 piece of silicon? I like to see tits moving during sex but with implants, it's really ugly to see nothing moving. Too bad that pure beauties like Klara Smetanova, Forancia (aka Doris), Zafira, Christina Bella or Lanny Barbie have done such a huge mistake. I hate some of them since they changed to implants.
Please, Simony Diamond, if you don't want me to commite suicide, never do that!
mike_lee
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Added: May 12, 2008 6:51 pm
I don't like the dialogue.
or the quality of most internet porn.
or female solo clips totally ruined by some man talking or sticking his fingers in the goods in the last frame totally destroying the "solo" nature
I don't like when women are humiliated or make fools out of themselves - both make me uncomfortable
I don't like all the innuendos that sites makes trying to draw you in with "the youngest teen" (on a scale of 13 to 19 where is 1Cool
I don't like that a 15 year old old can post nude pics of herself but we can be jailed if we look at them
billyellis
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Added: May 19, 2008 1:54 am
mike_lee wrote:
I don't like when women are humiliated or make fools out of themselves - both make me uncomfortable...

I don't like that a 15 year old old can post nude pics of herself but we can be jailed if we look at them


Hear, hear. I really think we are heading in the direction of 2 completely different types of porn - adoring of women vs. abusive of women. The two are as fundamentally different as gay porn and straight porn, IMHO, and the abusive type is rapidly getting so extreme that I think eventually sites like this one will have to consider splitting into two different sites. Because while the audience may overlap a little at times today, as things get more and more "gonzo" in the 'abusive' genre it will really start to drive away those of us that are fans of the 'adoring' genre and are turned off by the other kind. And if it is turning me off, why would I want to watch it or go surf to a site where I may inadvertently come across something that will ruin my 'erotic buzz' as it were??

And with the rise of webcams and now cell phone cameras, the law definitely has some catching up to do with the times.
bags25
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Added: May 27, 2008 8:52 pm
The biggest turn off is gigantic fake tits, it's just disgusting!
Grimble Krumble
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Added: May 27, 2008 11:34 pm
When they show the dude's face. Never ever is this appropriate, and most certainly, never right before the money shot! screenshot
billyellis
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Added: May 28, 2008 2:15 am
Grimble Krumble wrote:
[color=darkblue]When they show the dude's face. Never ever is this appropriate, and most certainly, never right before the money shot!


It could be worse - they could have the dude look at the camera and make eye contact. Shocked Laughing How horrible would THAT be? Laughing