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My-Excuse
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 28, 2005 5:17 am
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/24/us_law_2257/

i dont know if there is already a thread on this...
Cruzing
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Added: Jun 28, 2005 5:39 am
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I believe thous who physically handle innocence like that should be there priority.

The investigation is targeting thous type of rings.

TF has no such depictions nor agenda on innocence like that.

They will probably search & hunt around, crossing off there list the obvious. no abuse like that is on this site that I can see!

I'm just a member and see nothing like that going on here.
Just a bunch of guys that like to look at girls.

No more to it than that!

I wonder if they like girls too?????
My-Excuse
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 28, 2005 8:14 am
yes but uhm, according to that law, by glancing over it quickly, it seems that any website that offers pictures of any human being nude that is labled as porn will have to also offer proof of the age of their models.

i mean from what i gathered, this law will make it so that if i was a cop or affiliated with some sort of law enforcement, all i would have to do is contact the website owner and request a photo ID of the models and if i wasnt provided with requested material, the website could be shut down.


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And we're even more secure because law enforcement officers can wander into adult businesses any time they want, without a court order, and go through every single file{files about the ages and location of each model} for hours or days at a time.


basically the law states that if they 'suspect' that any of the models on a porn website is underage or even just want to make sure, the website will have to provide information on every single model including age, last known place of residence and other information (liscence number for example).

and it isnt just partial to porn websites, if you own a webcam and have yourself posting nude, you must make available your age and place of residence. the reason why this is causing such a problem is because people who post themselves nude on webcams will become in danger of being stalked and/or harrased because their information will have to be made available.
Cruzing
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 28, 2005 10:06 am
Yes, I remember now as I scanned it over! Well that is certainly going to be interesting for STARS of the web, maybe the can request Privacy after there age/residence disclosures!

Its the crimes of a few that spoils the natural beauty that girls/women possess. I realize that sex obsessions can go overboard & that some sort of Reg. needs to be around to protect. Hope it works protecting those who need it!

Art is a funny word when it comes into play with photos. The design work I do, I always appreciate fluid lines, curves & texture. Shadows & highlights also. The subject matter is also important!!!!

Too others, they would call it PORN/???

(Couldn't sleep. back pain & its 2:30 am now)

Parental approvals & monitoring of photo sessions, I guess means nothing. Saw that somewhere. Been awhile...
According to what they think I guess, is that if anybody sees it. Then there going to have to abuse it. Don't think that's totally fair assuming that as a status Que. A over-reacting measure which typically plagues us here in the USA. Covering all the bases theory.

I Guess after there done with this stuff, they will get busy getting the terrorists. Some guy thought they were all ignorant savages. ranting and raving. To funny on what some peoples conceptions are. Met 2 of them. Trade Center pilots. Boom there gone. They went to a strip club for 3 weeks solid before they left....weird shit huh.......

They worked as car salesman on my cousins lot in Phoenix. He was cleared.....I remember them being on the web all the time thou......well dressed, money & educated appearances........Boom and there gone...over 3000 died; More than we lost on the attack a Peal Harbor,,,,,weird shit;;;...anyway........

Forum slowed down a lot. How in the heck am I going to get 500 at this pace........

Can;t wait to see on how all this plays out.....

Later
alex
Good Poster
Added: Jun 28, 2005 4:37 pm
Let's just hope that many foreign sites don't care about that law.

Just wait a few years and many sites will be hosted in Russia or so. And just imagine what will happen when African will have Gigabit connections.

And America sucks anyway. A very interesting article in German is http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/20/20327/1.html (sorry didn't find some English translation).

And if this development continues we will soon have an innernet within the Internet. A uncensored network only routed within the Internet with free speech (and porn) that cannot be found anywhere else.
Cruzing
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 28, 2005 6:05 pm
Sure they will care, Follow the money of entitlements & promises that will be proposed if they co-operate. Status Que for bending Nations over now days. They will go for the big buck promise to allow the access of a industry that caries a bad tag anyway, It will make them appear more honorable to the general populous to cooperate.....

anyway----------- well see?
Houdini
Poster
Added: Jun 28, 2005 7:09 pm
What will this all mean? That it will be dangerous soon to live in the US if you like to watch pictures of nude 19 and 20 year old girls ?? Shocked
And what if FBI pick up your pc, where you have several nude pics of 19 year olds on your harddrive? And FBI says to you: the girls on your pc looks 16 or 17 year old... then you have to prove that those girls are really 19, otherwise they can trow you in jail because of having ****porn... Sad . Soon this law will also move to the rest of the world, to Europe for example. Within 5 years you are only save when you live in Russia if you want to look to 19 year old nudes...
Cruzing
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 28, 2005 10:19 pm
Fear Factor

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They can arrest you for spitting on the sidewalk. There a law on that believe it or not....

Do they, No! Too busy, small infraction, bigger fish to fry!

There's risk in everything. I believe that if your just a viewer, no danger to general public, whats the threat? None!

Now if your one of the wackos, Becomes & is dangerous. Causes bodily harm. This material is just aide in proving he needs to be put away. Jackson case as reference!

Heck, if they went on a campaign to flush all the computers & build cases on just this material? What a huge undertaking of priorities to commit assets for a offense of such a small nature!

It's just bartering material to me, This is more a hobby like trading cards. More fun enter reacting than content. Content is nice once in awhile, but that certainly in not the main focus! For me anyway........

anyway....

Later
Punchay
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 28, 2005 11:00 pm
I hate these paranoia threads. Evil or Very Mad
Cruzing
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Added: Jun 29, 2005 12:58 am
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I Heard that Punchay was on there, go visit list!!!

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My-Excuse
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 29, 2005 1:25 am
Punchay wrote:
I hate these paranoia threads. Evil or Very Mad


yes but the fact is, there is plenty reason TO be paranoid.

if your computer is seized for whatever reason by law enforcement and they find pornography and you cannot prove the age or provide a source where the age of the model can be proven, you could very well go to jail and be labled as a pedophile.

especially seeing that this new law goes hand in hand with the patriot act which caused many non-terrorist related incidents to go to a whole new level simply because the law enforcement could use it as an excuse to escalate things.

not to sound like a 'big brother conspiracy' freak im just saying that the first chance you get wind that your computer is going to be seized by law enforcement, you make sure that all of your porn is off your computer before that time...
Cruzing
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 29, 2005 2:04 am
Wow guys, do you sleep at night worried about this stuff???

Thats why they make CD's load/copy burn=no files on computer!

Have a beer and relax!!
craziest78
Good Poster
Added: Jun 29, 2005 8:13 am
I am not going to get technical but just because you right click and select delete or you drag the file to the recycle bin does not mean it is deleted. even if you empty the recycle bin you are just telling the computer that this space is free to use on the hard drive but there are programs and ways from law enforcement to recover that data. I know there are programs out there that will rewrite that area on your hard drive a couple of time making sure that it can not be recovered.
Cruzing
Very Respected Poster
Added: Jun 29, 2005 9:19 am
Spy ware

It is set up to make a layer image over your desk top! It fools you, so you believe that what your looking at is yours. So when you delete, your trashcan shows empty, but the real trashcan under the layer is still full & stacking by cache.

Examine your trash & look for another can. It will show it self after you open up down the chain of programs. Hard way to do it, but search I do not believe pulls it! I think it will read IE trash or something, verify that before you go deleting stuff. What it does next is take image shots of your desktop and pulses them out on a cycle through your modem. Modem security is most important and the hardest to get in windows.
Never connect direct use a hub connection.

The first set of the spy ware will be in your command setup.
best to copy all that after a clean reinstall and updates, so you have a base reference point of log files and command lines.

Crazy paranoid shit--- I hate that when it goes that way, Good luck on your endeavors.
baldric390
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jun 29, 2005 3:54 pm
For us technically challenged, do any of you technodudes have any recommendations for a program that really effectively covers your tracks? I know there are a zillion of them out there who claim to do it but how to know? Sad