':o' Hungary may legalize teen porn

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Hungary may legalize porn involving 14- to 17-year-olds for home use
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BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — A bill modifying Hungary's penal code could allow pornographic material involving 14- to 17-year-olds to be made and kept for personal use.

The Justice Ministry said the draft proposal, presented last month by Hungarian Justice Minister Jozsef Petretei, was in line with European Union norms which give members states the right to regulate the issue at national level.

But Opposition lawmakers attacked the proposal as "legalized pedophilia" and a family welfare group described it as "the waiting room of prostitution."

Petretei said Monday that the proposal had taken into account the age in Hungary — 14 — at which consensual sexual relations are allowed.

"If we consider people 14 years of age to be mature enough to consent to sexual acts, then the chance to make picture recordings of this ... can also be allowed," Petretei told lawmakers in parliament.

The minister added that if deputies felt the issue offended their "moral sensitivity," they could propose changes to the bill.

Petretei also said that to bring Hungarian laws in line with EU norms, the ministry was also advocating changes in the same bill which would increase penalties for some other porn-related issues.

The center-right opposition parties strongly criticized the plan.

"This is a scandal," Miklos Soltesz, from the opposition Christian Democratic Peoples Party, told state television. "We initially thought the intention to legalize **** pornography was government insanity ... but it seems they're serious."

Idiko Gall Pelcz from Fidesz, the largest center-right opposition party, described the proposal as "legalized pedophilia," calling it "revolting and distressing."

"I can only hope that there will be many of us here in parliament who agree ... that to make pornographic recordings of minors is not part of and not a necessary condition of natural sexual development," Gall Pelcz said in parliament.

A civic group described the plan as "the waiting room of prostitution."

"This goes against common sense and the international rules on ****ren's rights," the Association of Large Families, which represents families with at least three ****ren and claims to be Hungary's largest civic organization, said in a statement.

Gergely Barandy, a deputy from the governing Socialist Party, said one possible solution would be to reject the ministry's proposal relaxing the current law, but to give judges discretion in applying it.

"We would consider it unfair to threaten a 19-year-old person with prison for taking erotic pictures of his 17-year-old wife for their own use," Barandy said in a statement.

The bill — which is part of a longer series of proposed changes to the penal code stretching to 104 pages — says the pornographic material cannot involve people between the ages of 14 and 17 if they are related to or under the care of the person making the recordings.

The participants also must give their consent to the video or photos and the material cannot be made for commercial purposes.

The debate of the bill began in parliament last week and while some speakers mentioned general reservations about the plan, no concrete counterproposals were made.

Parliamentary Speaker Katalin Szili said Monday that the debate of the bill would continue next week.

Changes to the penal code require a simple majority in parliament, so in theory the government parties — which hold 210 of the 386 seats — would have enough votes to approve the proposal.

Changes suggested by lawmakers are voted on separately, so the bill could be approved even if the part in question is rejected.

Currently, Hungarian law says that adults making pornographic materials involving people under the age of 18 can be sentenced to up to two years in prison.

great news! Will be allowed by the law also on forumophilia to post such material?

lavec wrote:


NO!!!
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If the law is changed to allow such images to be recorded and kept then it will only apply to the country where it is legalised.

The law in most countries is that regardless of the laws where the pics or vids were taken, the possesion of such images must be within the legal limit of the country where the downloader has them. So if you live where sxxteen is the legal limit then you can have any images above that age. If eighteen is the limit (as in most countries) then you can only have images above that age, whatever the limit is in the country they came from.

Basically, whatever the limit in your country is applies to anything you download from wherever it comes from. Be safe, don't risk getting prosecuted. The internet police are out there!

fantailedalbi wrote:

I agree with you-and with the international law. Beside that, the possible new hungarian law says: "for private use only" so it even can be a problem there if someone puts it on the internet in that country .

Several times I have clicked the signature-link to an RS folder and downloaded, without knowing, some pretty nasty stuff.

As far as i know, its allowed in italy yet. Sounds like exact the same law. But it´s just a country-law, so you have to move there
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Oh, yeah we can move there and start a petition for legalizing censored teenage porn across EU, after all it was legal in some Scandinavian countries some time ago. You know... just to get remembered for the good old times when democracy was not spoiled by consequences of some crazy terrorists. After we win the battle for pornographic freedom in Europe we can start petitions in the US&Canada, influencing respectable senators with our arguments like Hungary and Italy are doing that, why shouldn't you do the same? This plan does not have anything and even is strictly against pedophilia, which is a sick thing!

Soon the whole world will start following this example and we will have absolute control over teen porns...wuahahaha wuahahahawuahaha!!!

Yesth Mastha!!


CHUNK LIKE TEEN PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








lavec wrote:

Don't post pictures of ****, rule breaking

Too much chance for abuse, even in Hungary. But I guess thats cause I'd rather protect the young..

Yeh not cool i think keep it clean and of appropriate age

pretty weird law