I really wish you hadn't posted this, stallion! This is not the sort of thing I want to see on forumophilia! I hate seeing people being killed! Especially since this is a real life event which only happened yesterday!
Why rush here to post such a depressing thread when you haven't posted anything else in weeks?
I'm not happy about the execution of Saddam.
It shows that even the new regime legitimates ultimate violence, and this can't be compatible to an enlighted society.
I'm aware that Saddam was one of those guys where the sentence "he deserved dead" is least false, but however, that leads to a problem:
Where is the border? If Saddam is executed, his subworkers could be executed, too, or can't they...........?
However, I have no problem this video is posted here:
This IS reality, why don't show it? (remember, this is general chat: talk about everything....)
To be honest, I'd be happy if there was less fictional violence (like in typical action movies), because it leads to dull in the perception of violence.
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Man, I hate to witness death.
Even if it is the death of someone responsible for umpteen thousands of more deaths.
Still, this is the proper forum for such a post and I thank you sincerely for making it available. Please disregard the haters. You have performed a public service, as stuff like this, when viewed, may prevent further senseless deaths in the future.
I don't think anyones reply was strong enough against this for them to be reffered to as a "hater".
Mine was the strongest reply against it being added here but not because of the poster or because I think Saddam shouldn't be executed (actually I think he should have been locked away for the rest of his life instead but that's not the point) but simply that I do not like watching people die. It sickens and depresses me!
I know I don't have to watch this (and I didn't) but I just don't like it. Me. That's who. My opinion only.
About 18 months or so ago there was a dispute between myself and a friend regarding how they behead people in Iraq. My friend said they chopped their heads off with a sword in one blow but I knew better as I had read about how they do it in newspapers.
I had access to broadband internet and he didn't so he asked me to prove it by getting the infamous Nick Berg video clip. So I did get it on a p2p software... After watching them using a knife to saw his head off and take a long time to do it I was more than horrified (I won the dispute). Actually it effected me deeply. I was so angry about that for a long time... that someone could do this without remorse.
That was the last time I watched anything like that and I swear I never will again. I have better things to do than waste my time on that.
I don't understand what anyone would want to get this video for other than curiosity, well my curiosity has been vanquished!!!
Well, I won't be watching the video. Did Saddam "deserve" to die? Yes he probably did deserve it but was it the right thing to do? In my opinion it wasn't. The execution just seems to symbolise a mentality in Iraq where the way to solve your problems is to kill your enemy. No good comes from it. If you look at the overall picture of Iraq, the execution of the former, Sunni president by the new Shia government does not help in any way the efforts to end the sectarian violence in Iraq. It only increases the rift between the factions. The only way you will get stability in Iraq is if you can bring all sides together and the execution will only make it harder for the Sunnis to trust the Shia.
What really leaves a bad taste in the mouth about this execution is that politicians around the world are quick to point out what an evil man Saddam was (no doubt he was). However, what about all those politicians around the world that helped him carry out his atrocities? Saddam received help from at least the USA, UK, France and the USSR. Now they all sit in judgement of the monster that they helped to create. Even back in the 1960s Saddam was doing work for the CIA killing communists in Iraq. But, like I said, it wasn't just the USA. The bottom-line is that while governments around the world talk about freedom, democracy and human rights they are almost all willing to look the other way or actively support despotism if there's a profit to be made or if there's a strategic advantage by doing so e.g. doing business with the Chinese dictatorship.
So Saddam is gone and I will shed no tears for him. What good has come from his death? None whatsoever, but it's Iraq and death is, as strange as it sounds, a daily way of life there now. The country's fucked and we can thank Bush and Blair for that. Those 2 guys haven't got a fucking clue what they're doing. Iraq is a display of political and strategic ineptitude of the highest order. To call it incompetence would be an understatement. But, as they say, patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel and so, to try to deflect criticism of their sheer stupidity, they wave the flag and talk about how brave the troops are fighting for freedom and the well-being of their countries. Thanks to Bush and Blair we no longer have to live in fear of being invaded by the feeble Iraqi army. We no longer have to worry about Saddam and Bin laden's non-existant links and we don't have to worry about all those imaginary Iraqi nukes and other wmd raining down on our cities. And all it cost was billions of dollars, the destruction and fragmentation of an entire nation and thousands upon thousands of lives. "Mission accomplished".
This was no execution: it was the revenge of Muqtada al Sadr who's family was savagely murdered by Saddam.
The Iraqi government has virtually no power outside the small green zone. In reality there's a civil war going on because no-one is in control.
3000 US soldiers dead, 60.000 Iraqi killed since the "war was won". This is a humanitarian disaster. Biggest mistake the Bush government made.