A second chance

I will be closing shop for awhile. (Going 3 weeks holiday) The recent events have left a bad taste to say the least.

I just wanted to write a small summary and ask especially respected posters to rethink before they move on. Since I'm not in anyway involved in the management and just a simple leecher and small time contributor, I thought my word may carry some meaning.

1- This forum is paid by GS (GoodSamaritan). Whoever is the real owner of this nick or changed ownership is irrelevant. Its his domain.He needs to or wants to make money out of it. As long as everyone is happy he can just do that. Its a win-win. I am not so naive to think that he is a porn philantrophist to pay thousands of dollars to keep such a high traffic forum (recently with GB's of embedded images which creates even more bandwidth problems) BUT in order to keep people happy, and his revenue stream, he must heed our wishes. Otherwise people will simply disappear and he will end up with a ghost forum, like hundreds out there. A donation box can be a way for us to show our appreciation. He needs to put ads as necessary and must generate cash through downloads.

2- The mods/admins whatever you call them, have been doing their best to let our voices heard. Meanwhile they made their best to keep the forum coherent and meaningful. They explained in best possible ways their combined efforts, with our support, which resulted in RS being back again and rules changed so that a mirror on Or0n is not required anymore.

3- Many big time uploaders or nice posters who are liked by this humorous, witty community (It has always been nice to try to find the hidden links or passwords from Dagobert or w-e), burst out in an uproar, declaring they will leave or simply stop posting.

4- There is still some demand on link protectors being enabled, and a few other minor changes. I'm sure this can be sorted out. In case of link protectors, even without them there are simple ways of hiding your links. Even if you are a poster like Arovane, you can do so without link protectors. Its simple to hide or puzzle your links. Most people here count on quality post than quantity so if you will post 3 per day instead of 10, thats probably fine by everyone. If you will be uploading to MU I think that will not be necessary.

Now that RS is back again, I want to ask as a member, for you to give a second chance. Most of you that declared they are leaving or have gone quietly, I know you are still checking whats going on. Give some time, wait a few weeks to see whats going on.

I myself will be closing shop for 3 weeks for summer holiday. After that this will be the first website I will be checking back to.

A final note to GS: A name may be stronger to express my feelings and my meager advice to you. "Machiavelli"

a nice and a bright post!
silkworm wrote:
a word for the forum owner:
I'm sure that the server and the traffic cost, so instead of trying to make cash in unsuitable ways, an option to donate is a very good idea.
remember: high level user happiness = a potential for a higher donation.

I do agree with silkworm on a lot of what he said. If only the money making scheme had been planned better and brought to the forum in a presentable fashion this would not had occurred in the first place. But needless to say from me, I think we should just let it rest on that part of episode.

Link protectors I think should be reinstated ASAP on bases of there is not such thing as "true" security breach on their part. Prohibit link protectors will only benefit easier copy and past link here to other places........trade links....that's what I can think of. And with all due respect with every posters here..........I see the ones using link protectors are the ones providing sensitive materials and link will go down within hours of post sometimes so we should assist them in every way we can, and if link protectors are doing the job they feel comfortable with then why not? Have thousands posts wipeout in a sec is not funny at all. I think until forum can supplement ironclad proof that link protectors are harmful, it should allowed......has been all this time?! And one more note on this.........we do have a huge followings for the sensitive materials here.

Last thought, about the Oron posters.........myself will pretty much just ignore them as long as they don't bother me. I've noticed they are flooding with materials everywhere and the only thing I can say is.......if GS earned a penny from it then good for him! LOL What I am thinking is if Oron posters payment/earning actually will satisfy GS then let him have it. If members are interested and willing to wait for slow download or pay for the service then that is their prerogative.................we can't and shouldn't influence them what to do, if so we have become just like the episode. But they better not bother me..............LOL.

work77009 wrote:

Problem is, this forum is under heavier surveillance than any other place I know of. And I don't mean bots, some serious manpower has to be involved to take down most of the links within hours or days, even though they were hidden behind link protection or fancy names.

That's why I didn't post here as much as I usually do. Some files I posted were down within hours after having been up for the better part of two years on different boards.

I just can't imagine it to be only malevolent snitches. It has to be some business effort and no link protection will change that.

abaris wrote:
"...That's why I didn't post here as much as I usually do..."

Mr. abaris, who you trying to bullshit??

abaris wrote:


I agree with your sentiment abaris. But about link protectors......I think it's a deterrent a tool that can slow down deletion and prolongs a link just that much longer IMHO. If they really wanted to, those links will still be brought down and I have seen it. But if posters feel safer and if it will lessen the chance by that much from....first the bots then humans to report it then by all means link protectors should be allowed. That's like a first defense that is available for use so why not use it?! But of course nothing is bulletproof even a complex puzzle coding will get deciphered when given enough time and wit.

I know this sounds unfair.....but I was thinking perhaps for certain threads that are prone for reporting or.......some well known posters that have been here long time and core contributors that have been targeted before, they should be able to request for special exception for them if they so choose to use link protectors and then maybe Admins/Mods can talk it over once is requested? duno. But I do think this will in good faith show that Forum cares and appreciated their hard work and sacrifice they put in after their links have been deleted and yet they continued posting that made us this far....but who am I to floor the suggestion?

One last thing I thought has it's importance is.......after browsed some sections I came across a thread about M$T Art HQ pics and inside I saw who-ever made a comment about dastardly acts. I agreed completely........the last thing we need is RS or other hosting service posters doing dirty thing and report Oron posters or vice-versa .......it will be an apocalypse before you know it. Let's not even go there.

I suspect the reason that "link protectors" are banned is that they also act as dereferrer agents.

The recent influx of ORON posters are all posting bare links, that means the ORON host servers are recording each click as coming from FO, I suspect the owners revenue from ORON is a function of how many downloads are initiated and how many new accounts are opened as a result of FO referrals.

The statements about protecting downloaders from security threats etc is utter balderdash. This is a pron forum, the vast majority of people who come here know all about the "nasties" out there and how to avoid them. And they don't need some "nanny" pron forum owner trying to feed them bullshit.

I agree with silkworm, if this whole issue had been handled in a mature considered manner instead of the amateurish farce we've all witnessed then new owner might not have generated so much ill will. But maybe that was his intent - out with the old, in with the new. If so then he should have the courage to state his motives and actual intentions, then people can pitch in and help or piss off and get out of the way.

"Machiavelli" nuh - more like "Laurel & Hardy"

w-e

I think out with the old, in with the new was exactly what he had in mind..........with the new flood of materials, they are targeted with porn contents in mind.............sadly if FO is nothing but for porn movies........I do check for softcore pics that is about beauties........and those threads are inactive because they feel like betrayed by Forum without link protectors and they doing and risking a lot to bring up-today materials...........that is what made FO great and others seek and come here for materials that they don't get anywhere else.

who-ever wrote:

Machiavelli was meant to be the advice word. It was not meant to describe the way GS handled the situation. Sorry for confusion.

work77009 wrote:
I haven't been coming here for the new stuff, most of that's available from anywhere and everywhere, and its usually on reputable torrents within 36 hours these days so why bother with file sharing hosts. Its the old stuff that I like, such as that which member doesres has been posting in the met-art thread - IMO that man's an international treasure.

I guess I'm pissed off because I was hoping that the new FO might provide a home for the 2500 unposted files I have on Hotfile.com. Guess I'll have to delete them myself

C'est la vie

silkworm wrote:
Aaah you obviously mean the real Machiavelli - the one who gave sound advice to rulers who come into possession of new lands after deposing the previous ruler.

I was ignorant in assuming you meant the fictional evil scheming Machievelli - I obviously misjudged you Silkworm - so I claim the bad. I'm also a paid up member of the Brotherhood of the Perpetually Confused.

Have great holiday mate.

w-e

Let's not dirty the good name/work of L&H

who-ever wrote:

Yes, you are right-on about the oldies......I picked up some myself.
About the materials that are readily available from somewhere else also not just here....I must confess that I don't use torrent much or at all because of bad experience in the past, I do know a few places doing the updates but they using HF or DF or others that I just don't have. But over here they are organized and even preview pics for you so we can conveniently choose before download and most are RS which is just a blessing, even MU I can easily use as free user and speed is up to par I would say but sadly I heard some members from other countries that MU are less friendly for them.