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dFighter
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Added: Jul 26, 2010 12:20 am
fantailedalbi wrote:
I think everyone has different experiences with the various filehosts depending on where you are, your ISP etc. RS has always been good for me, some others reasonably good, some crap. The few times I've tried to d/l from Oron it's always been a big problem so I don't bother.


I'd say this, no other filehost, *nobody* has had the gall to give me a 126 second wait and 60 minute cooldown for 100mb files, of which movies are often split into 7+ of them.

That's 7 hours for a damn movie, with Hotfile I'd have it in less than half an hour.
McFiftyfifty
I'm probably spamming
Added: Jul 26, 2010 2:15 am
Such drama. It makes me wonder how much money you were actually making before RS changed their rules. It must have bee a lot, in order to make all of this work your doing now worthwhile. All this effort to make the site look like a time-tested and thriving Oron-centric site. If you were willing to stomp all over convention and then put all this time into creating a new Oron file sharing site from the ground up anyway, then that's what you should have done, make a new site. Rolling Eyes
ayebite
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 3:13 am
liudnux wrote:
fantailedalbi wrote:
However some people must be happy with Oron -
patriot80 joined 21st July - now posted 263 movies
melikh joined 21st July - now posted 483 movies
ION47 joined 17th July - now posted 598 movies
dassstin joined 18th July - now posted 618 movies
square joined 23rd July - now posted 1234 movies (yes, in less than 3 days!)


Interesting, I see date of 2004-11-15 Shocked

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Now LISTEN to me people!

---> I am not going to comment on ANY theory posted here but I like to help you all to UNDERSTAND what is going on here.
First of all: FO is not the only forum in the net. And not the largest.
Ask yourself WHAT is it that makes people post stuff in such big amount in such a short time?
WHAT can it be, huh? There is only one answer.
And that answer has MANY zeros in it. Or in other words: lots of green color. In fact MORE of those two factors than you can possibly imagine. Trust me.
Now: as I said FO is not the only forum in the world. And speaking for me I am currently active in 20-30 forums worldwide. Running "MY" threads with MY unique stuff. Those threads are DONE. They are made with love, handmade screenshots (actually REALLY handmade, not with some fucking automatic screen-making program) - but they are done. I technically would be able to post ONE lesbian teen fisting thread with 1,000 Videos - most of it in HD, all from FTV, ALS-Scan, some other sites of great quality - RIGHT now. Because I made the core thread 2 years ago and let him grow. Other people do not put much love into their posts. They put in more technical aspects - if you know what I mean. But on the other hand it is ME that runs the largest thread on EB in my section, it is ME with the 3rd highest reputation out of 53,000 members there - and not some thread maker without any love or heart just posting their links. Nevertheless I WOULD HAVE the opportunity to post about 3,000 videos RIGHT now If I wont. And I could make it look like it was my first posting of that stuff here since I always have some personal text (I really wrote some months ago) and some handmade screenshots. And I always respond to requests or questions.

So: there IS no FAKE or cheating here. There are some guys out there - no: many hundred thousand actually - that are using god damn ORON as their primary hoster because they were:

a) FUCKED by RS like me in February getting 50% of their 4,000 files deleted in one day

b) Just want to share and be happy with it - for what reason ever.

--> The people who know me went WITH ME through my struggle to find the right host that would a) NOT delete my stuff b) give me some FTP transfer that works 24/7 (unlike SHX or DF or MU) c) has some staff that actually cares if you have some problem (unlike HF).

And let me give you once more ONE thing to think about: you have to be very creative and a bit nuts to estimate the amount of FUN you can have with using oron. And yes: you can be a GOOD poster although you are using ORON. Basically NOTHING changed. Otherwise I would have been long banned on all the other forums I am working with.

OK?

And by the way: the REAL pest is SHX at the moment! Seen at how many forums those guys placed their banners?

Kthxbay
sacto
Good Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 4:17 am
Rolling Eyes Let's try this in a different topic, and worded differently.

ayabite - You seem to be highlighted as a mod, could someone please tell me who are the current moderators of the forum. If you can't say yet, just say that.
dFighter
Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 4:20 am
I know what you mean ayebite, I feel you when you say you make your own screenies and actually put love in your thread, that you care for it, that your thread is your baby, instead of just a whirring bit and piece of machine that is the shit from a bot.

And I feel that while I started out almost making nothing, and having few views my threads are growing in views, and yes, $$$, because I actually care for them and put things up that people like, instead of trying to spam junk all over hoping for the random clicks/laws of large numbers.
ayebite
Respected Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 4:44 am
sacto wrote:
Rolling Eyes Let's try this in a different topic, and worded differently.

ayabite - You seem to be highlighted as a mod, could someone please tell me who are the current moderators of the forum. If you can't say yet, just say that.


Can't say that yet. I need to do my job here and help. Like I always do.
Good thing is that everybody still seems to remember the rules. i mean: the OLD rules.

By the way: speaking of SHITTY threads with fucked up screenshots and miserable videos: I fought some MAJOR fight to get rid of that at other places. Begged the admins, the mods. Forget it. You know why???

PEOPLE like that shit. It is the damn sad truth of life and internet: they take shitty threads, with fucked up tube rips and DOWNLOAD them like crazy. I work on one 1.7 gigabyte alsscan video to get some nice shots without the watermark and in the same time 20 new posts are made in the "shittyshittygangbang" section. And that is not a problem created by ORON. Look at shrmtrx or look at goddamn HF: those guys are grabbing MY videos, even my screeshots and post them.

So my idea is: claim YOUR area, make it your homeland and let retards download shit made for retards. Everybody is happy.

You see: even very strict forums who actually elaborate my suggestion of deleting ALL "super fast poster threads" had one key argument: those threads were loved. end of discussion. One mod was so kind to install one new rule saying: "We want more Quality here - please PM me all threads that you think can be put together by the fast posters". But that had no effect at all.

IN EVERY large forum it is like that - open forum I have to say. And, well, people are happy.
work77009
Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 7:11 am
ayebite wrote:


Now LISTEN to me people!



Ok ayebite, we heard you and is not like some of what you said we don't already know in the back of our head.
And please DO stop using "caps" here and there to EMPHASIZE your POINT OF VIEW. We get you......you are TRYING to help and that is fine but A LOT has to do with how EVERYTHING transpired in bad handling method that was used.

There are better ways of doing thing that's all I am going to say and REMOVED our trusted Mods has just made it even worse thus far.

Last note and don't flam me............you can't think you are the only one is RIGHT here. How you or GS going to smooth things out is your biz. Idea bring back the mods we might have a chance.
liudnux
Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Jul 26, 2010 7:50 am
I was a poster here, so maybe I could say some words, too.
All the discusion about "how bad is RS, it deleted files, changed rules". Yes, it is. But - that hoster is good for downloader - for a free downloader, who has no accounts, and has no money. After RS blocked my account I started to post to _all 3 other mirrors_ which were allowed here. Why? - to give to people a chance to download, to give them opportunity choose the best server. If there were a possibility - I would have uploaded to some massmirror service,- to give people as much chances to get what they like as it is possible.
Now all talks are going "oron is good for uplaoder, it do not delete files, it pays bunch of money". But I haven't seen a word from oron/"new order" advocates about someone who wants to download! Do you understand, or your money generation schemes do no allow it, that it is not possible for normal user to get for example updates from that site?! I never had bought any premiums - and never will. If all the world will turn to oron - well, then f$%^ it, I will turn my PC off and will sit near TV.
We, people from old generation, understand sharing in the other way,- not thinking about ourselves, but thinking about those who wants to get our stuff.
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work77009
Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 8:28 am
liudnux wrote:

We, people from old generation, understand sharing in the other way,- not thinking about ourselves, but thinking about those who wants to get our stuff.


And big thanks to liudnux too, after his thread got canned he keeps going and brought a lot of people free stuff.

Just to point out one thing in case GS has no idea what the latest uproar was about and I said it in a post that was deleted in Announcement section which was deemed obsolete and I understand............I had said that after the Oron issue and then finally RS was brought back and without needing a mirror to Oron....forum was trying to coexist with the new members...it seems as some people were really trying to move on with the rules, but then the extermination of Mods has just gone too far. Granted GS might not like something blah blah blah but that should be sort out between owner and the Mods in private and not by removing them to make an example of SHUT UP or you go next. Those Mods have been here long time and did a wonderful job no wonder their feelings are hurt. No matter what GS is pissed about...........they did way more RIGHTS than WRONGS and that's that. Now GS said PM me if you want your job back but do it my way from now on........no...........that tone is too harsh and not trying to see the whole uproar as one big picture. Ask them back and work it out the differences is what I see and if the damage is not too deep and not too late to even reconcile that is......I believe those Mods do love and care for the forum.

GS, owner or not you can't remove your pillars of the forum and expecting it won't crash down. You made your point.....but now the ball is in your court.
svinto
Retired Legend
Added: Jul 26, 2010 8:39 am
I have got my job back, or part of it.
Moderator in VIP.
I did PM GS, not to ask for getting the job back but to ask him to remove me.
I'm out of here by the end of the week.
Have a few more things I like to share in one topic first.
Preps in progress.
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work77009
Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 8:53 am
svinto wrote:
I have got my job back, or part of it.
Moderator in VIP.
I did PM GS, not to ask for getting the job back but to ask him to remove me.
I'm out of here by the end of the week.
Have a few more things I like to share in one topic first.
Preps in progress.



svinto before you made up your mind to leave and put in public then later is hard for you to rescind............let it take some time and everyone think about it?
dFighter
Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 5:39 pm
liudnux wrote:
All the discusion about "how bad is RS, it deleted files, changed rules". Yes, it is. But - that hoster is good for downloader - for a free downloader, who has no accounts, and has no money.


I don't know who put that thought in your head, but:

Megaupload: 25 sec wait, 3 files before cooldown
Hotfile: 60 sec wait, 1 hour cooldown
SM: 10 min per file
DF: 60 sec wait, 1 hour cooldown

...

Your Beloved Rapid: 100 sec wait, 2 hour cooldown!!!
liudnux
Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Jul 26, 2010 6:04 pm
dFighter wrote:
I don't know who put that thought in your head, but:

Megaupload: 25 sec wait, 3 files before cooldown
Hotfile: 60 sec wait, 1 hour cooldown
SM: 10 min per file
DF: 60 sec wait, 1 hour cooldown

...

Your Beloved Rapid: 100 sec wait, 2 hour cooldown!!!

From where you get these lies? Typical russian propaganda of lies.
From where you got this MU cooldown? It is 1GB/day for free user! and only 25 seconds between downlaods!
HF - 30 minutes between downloads. No restrictions about filesizes, eg, you download 500 MB file - and after that wait 30 minutes again only!
SM - unavailable, come later
RS - waittime depend on filesize - and 15 minutes between downloads!
(m)oron - download 500 MB, wait 5 hours after that!

dFighter - [b]LIAR! Have at least some dignity!

Printscreen made and pdf file print saved as evidence.
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Trilight
Poster
Added: Jul 26, 2010 7:09 pm
liudnux wrote:
dFighter - [b]LIAR! Have at least some dignity!


Calm down, he is a moron, pathetic rapidshare-hater, hotfile-lover and he's not accepting any arguments, but he is not a Russian. Smile He is flooding 3 or 4 forums with his hate streams, but he's at least ok as a poster. There are worse posters in the internets Smile


Let him rant ...
svinto
Retired Legend
Added: Jul 26, 2010 7:55 pm
work77009 wrote:
svinto before you made up your mind to leave and put in public then later is hard for you to rescind............let it take some time and everyone think about it?


My mind was made up when RS got banned.
Unbanning them didn't change anything.
I have had time to think it over.
My work here is done.
I have told GS that I'm out of here apart from being a lurker, checking PMs and reply to them.
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