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who-ever
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Added: Mar 11, 2010 8:27 am
Has anyone been able to make remote uploads work between Rapidshare Premium and MediaFire Pro accounts - I cant make it work. But I can make these work OK

Rapidshare from Hotfile
Hotfile from Rapidshare
Hotfile from MediaFire
Mediafire from Hotfile

I wont go into the details of what happens now - except to say you don't get want you'd expect. I can get the desired result by using HF as a bridge i.e RS->HF->MF or MF->HF->RS, but that means three accounts rather than two.

MU is another option, personally I loathe MU, just like some loathe RS. But if MF cant work with RS then I'll have to look at MU. Does anyone know if MU supports remote uploading - I looked on the site but could not see anything, and even more importantly is anyone using it with RS

AS well as Hotfile I can also move stuff between MF and Sharing Matrix, which leads me to think that the problem lies with RS rather than MF. RS and SM also work happily together.

thanks who-ever

EDIT : Change subject to better reflect thread content
Loui375
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Added: Mar 11, 2010 9:01 am
Megaupload: according to their table (see pic) i would say remote uploading should be possible with a premium account, but i couldn't test it.
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who-ever
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Added: Mar 11, 2010 1:16 pm
Loui375 wrote:
Megaupload: according to their table (see pic) i would say remote uploading should be possible with a premium account, but i couldn't test it.

Thanks for that Loui - I'll be in touch, probably via PM tomorrow,
svinto
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Added: Mar 11, 2010 9:29 pm
It is possible with Premium MU but the upload will be pending until RS gives you a free slot since they treats you as a Freedownloader.

EDIT: Didn't work. I recieved a message in MU that the file was forbidden to share.
Tested a normal Premium download of the file from RS, no problem.
Might be a setting in RS that needs to be changed and if so I think it's one that will cost points.
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who-ever
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Added: Mar 12, 2010 2:59 am
Thanks svinto - I did not understand, are you able to

a) upload from MU Premium to RS Premium
b) upload from RS Premium to MU Premium

If you need an empty RS Premium Account I have one you can borrow.

Or if you have a spare MU Premium Account that I can borrow I can do the testing - obviously Id prefer that.

The account holder is always the downloader with remote, via the account number & password in the url. So I would not expect to get any points for downloading to another server, just like I don't get points if I download to a workstation when I am logged in.

thanks who-ever
svinto
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Added: Mar 12, 2010 8:44 am
Sorry about the previous testreport.
Was a bit sleepy and didn't attacked it systematically.

My RS --> MU investigation.

I have a Premium at both places.
On RS I had to set the file I wanted to transfer to have "Traffic Share" enabled. Opposed to what I usually have "Normal download".
This will reduce my "Traffic share" account.
The account could be reinbursed either by buying volume https://ssl.rapidshare.com/cgi-bin/premiumzone.cgi?bodhelp=Hilfe+%2F+Infos or change in RS Settings for Download Traffic Management to let it use your Premium points.
I also used, what you pointed out, a modifyed url containing my RS premium account info for logging in.

My MU --> RS investigation.

Haven't succeded at all.
I only get a 33kB file. Sad

I don't have any spare MU account to lend for the testing.
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zokah
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Added: Mar 12, 2010 12:42 pm
I'm able to remote from RS to Hotfile but I can't get any site to be acceptable @ rapidshare. I do have premium accounts at RS, up.to MU and hotfile.
Is there any trick I'm not thinking of?
userL301
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Added: Mar 12, 2010 1:34 pm
Currently i have only RS premium, but remote-upload worked fine for me with netload to RS.

if http://PremUser:Pass@hoster.com/dl/file... (and removing the .html extention of the link) doesn't work, it's probably a good idea to take a closer look at the (small) uploaded files.
Download, add .html extention and view the file. There's probably already a usefull message (out of traffic or login failed). If that file is similar to the normal download srenn then it's a login problem.


Remote uploads from RS to somewhere else requires "Direct Download" to be enabled in the RS-settings.
who-ever
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 5:12 am
svinto wrote:
Sorry about the previous testreport.
Was a bit sleepy and didn't attacked it systematically.

My RS --> MU investigation.

I have a Premium at both places.
On RS I had to set the file I wanted to transfer to have "Traffic Share" enabled. Opposed to what I usually have "Normal download".
This will reduce my "Traffic share" account.
The account could be reinbursed either by buying volume https://ssl.rapidshare.com/cgi-bin/premiumzone.cgi?bodhelp=Hilfe+%2F+Infos or change in RS Settings for Download Traffic Management to let it use your Premium points.
I also used, what you pointed out, a modifyed url containing my RS premium account info for logging in.

My MU --> RS investigation.

Haven't succeded at all.
I only get a 33kB file. Sad

I don't have any spare MU account to lend for the testing.

Bugger, I was hoping MU would do the job

The 33Kb file behaviour you get with MU->RS sounds very similar to what I get with RS->MF. In that case the file is the HTML for a page that looks something like dead linkthis one[/url], but with the speed dials. If you still have the file, download it, change the extension to html and double click - I think you'll get an MU page of some sort.

Going the other way, MF->RS I get the file, it has the correct content but the wrong file name. The file name is the 9 byte MediaFire file id prefixed by an underscore ('_') - because ? are not allowed in POSIX file names.

So you end up with a file name something like _asb123def rather than 201001_Playboy.pdf, and unlike most file hosts RS does not provide file renaming.

I don't understand why points come into this at all. I can move files back & forth between RS, HF and SM and my points at all three stay the same - because you get no points for downloading your own stuff. All my files are marked for normal downloads.

Points are not an issue at MF. If you want the features of Pro - you pay $7/month minimum, period.

I think I should say why I am looking at this.

My idea is to have files on two file hosts, both of which can be posted at FO and which both support bi-directional file transfers. Currently I am doing this with RS and MF, but I can't transfer files directly between RS and MF, I have to use HF as a bridge. That's OK for me I post HF elsewhere, so I want my stuff on HF. But others who want to leverage from my experience don't want to post elsewhere, nor do they want to pay for an HF account just to get file back and forth to MF

But it looks as though MU<->RS suffers similar problems to MF<->RS.

Both MU and MF use file id links rather than direct file links, it would seem that RS does not handle file id links correctly only direct file links.

I really think that the file host issue need to be reconsidered

A major functional consideration should be the ability to easily move files back & forth between the allowable file hosts. I would suggest hotfile, it is very straight forward, it is easy to to download from it and it is as fast and as reliable as RS. And I can attest to the fact that bi directional file transfers work - I do it every day.

The fact that uploaders can earn money from hotfile is irrelevant, uploaders earn money from MU and its an allowable FO file host.

Thanks svinto as always you're an Angel - maybe I should promote you to Archangel. Eventually you might make it to Cherubim (highest beings in the celestial hierarchy, Angels being the lowest)

w-e
who-ever
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 5:40 am
zokah wrote:
I'm able to remote from RS to Hotfile but I can't get any site to be acceptable @ rapidshare. I do have premium accounts at RS, up.to MU and hotfile.
Is there any trick I'm not thinking of?

try this

logon to RS,
click Remote Uploads at top of page
type/paste hotfile file urls unto the text box
click Add

You must not have .html at the end of file names, HF will give them to in its selected files list - get rid of them. Make sure you have the hotfile acctid:password@ before the hotfile.com, don't forget the @ symbol

So hotfile will give you something like this in the selected file box

Code:
http://hotfile.com/dl/123456789/123abcd/myfilename.rar.html

which you need to change to look something like this

Code:
http://123456:password@hotfile.com/dl/123456789/123abcd/myfilename.rar

My rule is : thou shalt not have .html's in file urls anywhere, period.

PM me if that doesn't work

w-e
svinto
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 6:11 am
who-ever wrote:
Going the other way, MF->RS I get the file, it has the correct content but the wrong file name. The file name is the 9 byte MediaFire file id prefixed by an underscore ('_') - because ? are not allowed in POSIX file names.

So you end up with a file name something like _asb123def rather than 201001_Playboy.pdf, and unlike most file hosts RS does not provide file renaming.


RS do provide filerenaming function.
You have to switch to their New Premium Zone.
Still in BETA version but you have the option of Renaming.
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Loui375
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 9:48 am
svinto wrote:

RS do provide filerenaming function.
You have to switch to their New Premium Zone.
Still in BETA version but you have the option of Renaming.

It just depends on your viewing style: only in "list view" the rename option is missing, every other style has the function for each file (see pic below)

But you can also change the filename during the remote upload process:
(at least this works with netload, MU and RS)
Code:
http://netload.in/dateiFaCdfzg5Qf/filename.rar.htm

just add the new filename you want after a "/"
Code:
http://netload.in/dateiFaCdfzg5Qf/filename.rar.htm/newfilename.rar


"newfilename.rar" will be the name that appears in your RS account.
It's mostly "/" and "?" or a combination of both when using other sources, i tested it once but couldn't remember anymore.
I just remember that i didn't get Uploaded.to -> RS to work. But some other combination worked pretty good:

Netload (prem) -> RS (prem or free)
RS (prem) -> Netload (prem or free)
MegaUpload (free) -> Netload (prem or free)

These combinations are sometimes working, but the IP (of the netload remote server) gets banned for a while, so you either have to wait or if you're lucky netload uses another upload carrier for the second file:

Depositfiles (free) -> Netload (prem or free)
Shragle (free) -> Netload (prem or free)
SharingMatrix (free) -> Netload (prem or free)
Storage (free) -> Netload (prem or free)

Of course the files must not be bigger than 400Mb (max size of netload)
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userL301
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 10:18 am
renaming files during remoteupload usually works fine with ...source-link/oldname.rar.htm?/newname.rar sometimes oldname.rar.htm&/newname.rar or oldname.rar.htm/newname.rar
who-ever
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 10:47 am
svinto wrote:
who-ever wrote:
Going the other way, MF->RS I get the file, it has the correct content but the wrong file name. The file name is the 9 byte MediaFire file id prefixed by an underscore ('_') - because ? are not allowed in POSIX file names.

So you end up with a file name something like _asb123def rather than 201001_Playboy.pdf, and unlike most file hosts RS does not provide file renaming.


RS do provide filerenaming function.
You have to switch to their New Premium Zone.
Still in BETA version but you have the option of Renaming.


So they do, in very view except list view, which is the only only I've ever seen till I just clicked that box thing top right corner

thanks for the hint - that may cast new shadow/light on the state of play

Now if I can find a way to upload directly to MF from RS we may have an imperfect solution

you know my thoughts on this - add hotfile to allowable file hosts - then this thread would even not exist

thanks again - w-e
who-ever
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Added: Mar 13, 2010 11:02 am
Loui375 wrote:
svinto wrote:

RS do provide filerenaming function.
You have to switch to their New Premium Zone.
Still in BETA version but you have the option of Renaming.

It just depends on your viewing style: only in "list view" the rename option is missing, every other style has the function for each file (see pic below)

But you can also change the filename during the remote upload process:
(at least this works with netload, MU and RS)
Code:
http://netload.in/dateiFaCdfzg5Qf/filename.rar.htm

just add the new filename you want after a "/"
Code:
http://netload.in/dateiFaCdfzg5Qf/filename.rar.htm/newfilename.rar


"newfilename.rar" will be the name that appears in your RS account.
It's mostly "/" and "?" or a combination of both when using other sources, i tested it once but couldn't remember anymore.
I just remember that i didn't get Uploaded.to -> RS to work. But some other combination worked pretty good:

Netload (prem) -> RS (prem or free)
RS (prem) -> Netload (prem or free)
MegaUpload (free) -> Netload (prem or free)

These combinations are sometimes working, but the IP (of the netload remote server) gets banned for a while, so you either have to wait or if you're lucky netload uses another upload carrier for the second file:

Depositfiles (free) -> Netload (prem or free)
Shragle (free) -> Netload (prem or free)
SharingMatrix (free) -> Netload (prem or free)
Storage (free) -> Netload (prem or free)

Of course the files must not be bigger than 400Mb (max size of netload)


Thanks Loui - but I'd prefer to use hosts that are allowed at FO - apart from RS and MU the file hosts you reference are not allowed at FO and RS <-> MU is not your the list of successful transfers

I've been told elsewhere that you can transfer files between MU and RS by using SM as a bridge - which is exactly what I currently do to transfer files between RS and MF, except I use Hotfile as the bridge, I'd be very surprised if HF couldn't bridge RS and MU too.

svinto has done the tests between MU and RS that I thought you might be able to do for me.

Added

When using free accounts what was the performance like

I consistently get 1-2MB/sec between HF Premium and MF Pro going either way,

Going from RS to HF is occasionally faster, but generally a bit slower.

Going HF or MF to RS is a lot slower because of RS's two step shuffle. and of course I cant get RS -> MF working - so its speed is 0 bps.

cheers w-e